Duncan Idaho's Compendium of Comprehensive Offseason Plans

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

The only thing I don't agree with is your comment that in your scenario you have no intention of signing Bolton to another contract when his rookie contract is up. I think KC needs to find a way to keep him long term. He's the QB of the defense and if they have to cut a guy like Reid after next year to create the room to afford Bolton, so be it.

I love Nick and have for a long time. I'm a well-known Mizzou honk on here.

BUT... I still see a guy who is at best a "eh, he's OK" option as a pass defender. His instincts are next level and I think they play him up until he starts to decline physically.

But if he's fooled, or pulled out of position by his assignment, he just doesn't have the raw speed/range to recover quickly. And he's still pretty limited as a pass defender.

I just don't see how you can pay him big money on a long-term deal when that's the case.

Depends on what he's asking, but I assume it's going to be more than I'm comfortable with.

Originally Posted by JPH83

I'm with DJ on Gaines. Options I'd like to explore at DT are:

Daquan Jones - been injured i think there's a discount there.
Maurice Hurst - Same, would look to pay minimum. He might only give you 300 snaps but it's at a near elite level. If he's rotational I'd swing.
Michael Pierce - Has had a great year, I think you can get him around $6-7m a year and he'd be well worth it.
Chris Wormley - Has he retired? I guess the theme is taking a risk on guys who've been injured. Probably I'd want someone like Pierce and then one of those riskier, cheaper options.

Egbuka I really like. But...I'd also really like a guy whose played more on the outside. Might not matter with Holywood and I'm not saying he CAN'T do it. But if he can he might go before our pick anyway.

I like those DT names just fine. And Egbuka is a 6-1/200 guy and comes from a program that has done a good job developing guys who can win inside and out.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think I'm alone on the Gabe Davis bandwagon, but that's why I like him. I think he can outplay whatever deal he ends up signing. But I do see the concerns there in that he's not really an all-fields player. He's mostly a seam stretcher/deep guy. A younger and IMO, better, MVS. And frankly, a slightly better version of the 2022 MVS would be a god-sent for this offense. If that's ALL he is, it's still a hell of an add to the WR room.

Depends on the price, but I'm not super interested. He's a one-trick pony, and I want more versatility than that.

[RunKC]

Yeah Egbuka looks nice. I think Adonai Mitchell looks good too.

Lot of options. Feels like we wouldn't have to trade up with this class assuming they call declare.

This will probably never happen bc Andy almost always drafts a lineman in the first or 2nd rd, but man getting Egbuka or Mitchell and then Cade Stover in rd 2 would be so awesome

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Yeah Egbuka looks nice. I think Adonai Mitchell looks good too.

Lot of options. Feels like we wouldn't have to trade up with this class assuming they call declare.

This will probably never happen bc Andy almost always drafts a lineman in the first or 2nd rd, but man getting Egbuka or Mitchell and then Cade Stover in rd 2 would be so awesome

Loads of simulators I've grabbed 2 WRs the first 2 rounds and been really excited. But inevitably I'm then unsure on the LT situation and find myself with lots of holes.

Realistically I don't think we can fully "fix" the WR or LT in FA. I think maybe the best outcome is to partially fix the WR room with someone like Brown, and then replace Jones with an aggregate approach at DT. I'd consider ditching Reid as well and signing someone like Stone who's better at coverage and probably cheaper.

If we go into the draft with a cheaper and possible upgrade at safety and a group of DTs like Pierce and Daquan Jones replacing C Jones, I think we call those positions good until later picks.

Then you can focus on WR and LT. I think a stud WR in R1 is possible. Move up early in the 2nd to grab the best remaining LT, maybe someone like Patrick Paul, and then spend the rest of the draft on a TE, a guard who can sit a year, coverage focused LB, RB and maybe a double dip at WR. If the draft ticks a couple of those boxes I think we can maybe fix one or 2 more through remaining FA.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I love Nick and have for a long time. I'm a well-known Mizzou honk on here.

BUT... I still see a guy who is at best a "eh, he's OK" option as a pass defender. His instincts are next level and I think they play him up until he starts to decline physically.

But if he's fooled, or pulled out of position by his assignment, he just doesn't have the raw speed/range to recover quickly. And he's still pretty limited as a pass defender.

I just don't see how you can pay him big money on a long-term deal when that's the case.

Depends on what he's asking, but I assume it's going to be more than I'm comfortable with.



I like those DT names just fine. And Egbuka is a 6-1/200 guy and comes from a program that has done a good job developing guys who can win inside and out.



Depends on the price, but I'm not super interested. He's a one-trick pony, and I want more versatility than that.

Good point on the program. I maybe have some slight reservations about how effectively he really beats man and I wonder if he's as fast as some suggest, but yeah, I'd still love him late in the 1st. He'd be a helluva grab.

[Couch-Potato]

I also like Egbuka! But if we had Brown, a fast deep threat, and Rice, a scrappy over the middle type, I might consider going with a tall outside guy like Thomas Jr.

[ToxSocks]

Firmly against signing Tranquill over Gay. I can already tell this is going to be an offseason topic of contention.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Firmly against signing Tranquill over Gay. I can already tell this is going to be an offseason topic of contention.

I agree, but if Gay prices himself out of our range, then Tranquill is a must re-sign. The defense didn't skip a beat with Tranquill in there for either Gay or Bolton.

Hell, Tranquill may have well priced himself out of our range now that I think of it.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I agree, but if Gay prices himself out of our range, then Tranquill is a must re-sign. The defense didn't skip a beat with Tranquill in there for either Gay or Bolton.

Hell, Tranquill may have well priced himself out of our range now that I think of it.

I think that's where Tranquill has more value than Gay.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I agree, but if Gay prices himself out of our range, then Tranquill is a must re-sign. The defense didn't skip a beat with Tranquill in there for either Gay or Bolton.

Hell, Tranquill may have well priced himself out of our range now that I think of it.

He had a fantastic year last season with the Chargers - he hasn't shown anything this year that he didn't last.

Not sure why the market didn't materialize for him but I'm not sure why it suddenly would now.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Firmly against signing Tranquill over Gay. I can already tell this is going to be an offseason topic of contention.

I expect Gay to get a little more cash and interest.

I love Gay and would LOVE to roll with Tranquill/Gay as the core LB for the forseeable future, but it just doesn't seem likely.

[JPH83]

I'd take Tranquil over Gay. Gay's just too wildly inconsistent for me to care about the athletic potential at this stage. I think Tranquil has been fairly up and down too, but less so.

[O.city]

I'd rather keep Gay, but I'd keep Tranquill and Gay and let Bolton walk.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'd rather keep Gay, but I'd keep Tranquill and Gay and let Bolton walk.

Lot of people, including me, are gonna be unhappy when they open the checkbook for Bolton this off-season.

I've already accepted it

[raybec 4]

I kind of hope they throw down a little scratch and keep Mike Danna

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I kind of hope they throw down a little scratch and keep Mike Danna

So their 1st rd pick can ride the bench another year?