Chiefs Former GM Michael Lombardi on the Chiefs - Page 2

B_Ambuehl · 12-21-2009, 02:25 PM

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I know the Chiefs are bad on defense, but they were not this bad last year. For all the changes in K.C., things have gotten worse, much worse – on both sides of the ball. If there’s been progress toward a brighter future, I’m not seeing it.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...real-deal.html

splatbass · 12-21-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...real-deal.html

He was GM of the Raiders and Browns, so I guess he does know a lot about bad football......

Mecca · 12-21-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Hey Mike, we won three games, not two. Didn't you get the memo?

That's nice and all but we're not a better team not by any stretch of the imagination.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I read that, and I agree with them. If you say something rude to someone you should not be surprised to get a negative reaction.

What happened to civility? Why has our culture devolved to the point where insulting someone is something to be praised? Where did our values go?

Holy Christ.

You're asking for civility, when the HC of an NFL team flips a fan the finger because he said he should be fired?

No cursing, no insults, nothing.

"You deserve to be fired' does not deserve getting flipped the bird.

I sat in George's seats last year, and I heard people saying MUCH worse things to players and coaches, and not one of them flipped off the crowd.

It was a complete overreaction on Haley's part, and is as unprofessional as it gets.

I guess you defended Michael Vick when he flipped off the fans as well?

splatbass · 12-21-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Holy Christ.

You're asking for civility, when the HC of an NFL team flips a fan the finger because he said he should be fired?

No cursing, no insults, nothing.

"You deserve to be fired' does not deserve getting flipped the bird.

I sat in George's seats last year, and I heard people saying MUCH worse things to players and coaches, and not one of them flipped off the crowd.

It was a complete overreaction on Haley's part, and is as unprofessional as it gets.

I guess you defended Michael Vick when he flipped off the fans as well?

Absolutely, I'm asking for civility. He started it, he should not cry like a little girl if he gets a negative reaction. Apparently he can dish it out but he can't take it.

And I'm not defending anyone, I'm criticizing George for acting childish.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-21-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's nice and all but we're not a better team not by any stretch of the imagination.

Context comprehension fail...

**The Franchise** · 12-21-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Absolutely, I'm asking for civility. He started it, he should not cry like a little girl if he gets a negative reaction. Apparently he can dish it out but he can't take it.

And I'm not defending anyone, I'm criticizing George for acting childish.

This is what I don't get. Find in this post exactly where he was crying like a little girl.

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After the game, when the team was leaving the field, I had that same sinking feeling that I've had for many years now. That my football year is over. The home season is over. Football for me is done until the draft, or maybe training camp, or maybe opening day in 2010. I'm over 50 years old now. My Chiefs Years (like Dog Years) are ebbing away like sands in the hourglass. I don't want to watch a mediocre loser for another 15 years like the 1970s and 1980s. I just don't have that kind of time left, and certainly don't have the patience any more. Chiefs fans deserve better, and that's not just talk. We truly deserve better than this for everything we've given to the Chiefs -loyalty, money, time, money, emotion, money- over the last 50 years. When Haley was leaving the field, I leaned over the rail and yelled at him "YOU DESERVE TO BE FIRED" which after today's performance, I believe to be absolute truth. He stopped, looked up, and gave me the finger. The exclamation point on George Blowfish's fan appreciation day experience.

Not once did I hear him bitch that Haley gave him the finger. Not once did I hear how Haley had wronged him and that Haley deserved to give him an apology.

So you know what.....**** you and **** every person who thinks that George is in the wrong.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Absolutely, I'm asking for civility. He started it, he should not cry like a little girl if he gets a negative reaction. Apparently he can dish it out but he can't take it.

Started what?

He called him a jackass?

Called his mother a whore?

Told him to **** off?

Nope. None of those.

He simply said, "You deserve to be fired."

Todd would apparently never make it in Philly, New York, etc.

He would have heard worse than that during training camp.

And personally, George could have told him that his wife is a fat whore, and as the HC of an NFL team, he still is expected to act like a professional and ignore it, not confront it.

Titty Meat · 12-21-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Holy Christ.

You're asking for civility, when the HC of an NFL team flips a fan the finger because he said he should be fired?

No cursing, no insults, nothing.

"You deserve to be fired' does not deserve getting flipped the bird.

I sat in George's seats last year, and I heard people saying MUCH worse things to players and coaches, and not one of them flipped off the crowd.

It was a complete overreaction on Haley's part, and is as unprofessional as it gets.

I guess you defended Michael Vick when he flipped off the fans as well?

To be fair I do remember seeing on the news how Brian Waters got into it with fans. Pioli should trade him anyway.

TEX · 12-21-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's nice and all but we're not a better team not by any stretch of the imagination.

You're exactly right. We are WORSE than last year despite the better record. I'd also like to add that many hear, myelf included, figured that Haley would be responsible for at least 2 more wins this season. That has not happened. In fact, his coaching might even have cost us a couple.

splatbass · 12-21-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Started what?

He called him a jackass?

Called his mother a whore?

Told him to **** off?

Nope. None of those.

He simply said, "You deserve to be fired."

Todd would apparently never make it in Philly, New York, etc.

He would have heard worse than that during training camp.

And personally, George could have told him that his wife is a fat whore, and as the HC of an NFL team, he still is expected to act like a professional and ignore it, not confront it.

Would you walk up to someone you work with and say "You deserve to be fired"? I wouldn't. It is rude and uncivil.

**DaFace** · 12-21-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Would you walk up to someone you work with and say "You deserve to be fired"? I wouldn't. It is rude and uncivil.

Depends. Do I pay a portion of their salary?

**The Franchise** · 12-21-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Would you walk up to someone you work with and say "You deserve to be fired"? I wouldn't. It is rude and uncivil.

My coworkers don't make millions of dollars to coach a ****ing game. It's not the same thing.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Would you walk up to someone you work with and say "You deserve to be fired"? I wouldn't. It is rude and uncivil.

Well, that analogy couldn't be more baseless.

George doesn't work for Haley. Or with him. He actually helps pay his salary. He's a paying customer. Has been for FIFTY YEARS.

Wanna guess what would happen if a customer of mine told me I deserved to be fired, and I flipped off that customer?

I'd be fired.

AZChief · 12-21-2009, 05:46 PM

I think they both handled themselves fine. George expressed his opinion that Haley should be fired (which I'm beginning to agree with) and Haley flipped him off. George reported it with no drama. Sounds like a fairly cordial exchange of opinions to me...

splatbass · 12-21-2009, 06:08 PM

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Depends. Do I pay a portion of their salary?

My dad was a season ticket holder throughout the '70s. He wouldn't have dreamed of saying that to a coach. people weren't like that then.

I'm decrying the lack of civility we have today, where it is not only considered acceptable, but applauded. I find that offensive. Sorry if I'm old fashioned.

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