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Old 01-15-2013, 07:27 AM   #1
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:00 AM   #2
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I didnt listen to jets fans when they came here and said we'd end up hating Herm, so my ears are open to this criticism.

Lets just hope the guy is better at his job than he was several years ago, that doesnt seem like too much to hope for, and beyond that maybe Reid will press for more aggression.

I'll let him call a few games before calling for his execution.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:11 AM   #3
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I didnt listen to jets fans when they came here and said we'd end up hating Herm, so my ears are open to this criticism.

Lets just hope the guy is better at his job than he was several years ago, that doesnt seem like too much to hope for, and beyond that maybe Reid will press for more aggression.

I'll let him call a few games before calling for his execution.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:12 AM   #4
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I didnt listen to jets fans when they came here and said we'd end up hating Herm, so my ears are open to this criticism.

Lets just hope the guy is better at his job than he was several years ago, that doesnt seem like too much to hope for, and beyond that maybe Reid will press for more aggression.

I'll let him call a few games before calling for his execution.
You were actually excited about Herm at first?

my god....I hated the hire as soon as the rumors starting coming out that we'd be the ones to hire him. And we traded a draft pick for him (NYJ used for Leon Washington IIRC)
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:17 AM   #5
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You were actually excited about Herm at first?

my god....I hated the hire as soon as the rumors starting coming out that we'd be the ones to hire him. And we traded a draft pick for him (NYJ used for Leon Washington IIRC)
I was, he'd had some winning years up there, he came in promising top notch defense, a punishing run game and wasnt going to be afraid to put speedy youth on the field.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:21 AM   #6
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You were actually excited about Herm at first?

my god....I hated the hire as soon as the rumors starting coming out that we'd be the ones to hire him. And we traded a draft pick for him (NYJ used for Leon Washington IIRC)
The worst part about making the Herm hire was the fact that the year before trading for him we completely annihilated his unprepared team. Carl always had a thing for picking up players that beat hist team which I can sort of see. But, hiring a coach that had no idea how to stop your team or score against your team? blech.

I guess you can add me to the list of not being impressed with the DC hire, was hoping we would get someone who truly had earned owning that entire part of the team
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:35 AM   #7
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I wonder if Sutton is going to be like a Clancy Pendergast? Basically a stopgap until someone better is available?
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:39 AM   #8
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Just because Mangini sucked, doesn't mean Sutton did. Plus he's running a D more like the one he learned from Rex anyways. Not the one he was thrown into and learning from Mangini.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:44 AM   #9
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He was also trying to run a 34 with 43 personnel. Time will tell what type of hire this is/was. A lot to be excited about, but there was a lot to be excited about 4 yrs ago.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:10 AM   #10
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While I'm not thrilled about the hire.....Jets fans are some of the biggest morons in all of professional sports.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:26 AM   #12
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It's hard to find good coaches... They either have a job or are being promoted to HC. Sutton is like the up and coming DC people claim to want, except he's not young. But he's still an unknown. And has a lot of experience in a lot of different schemes. Reminds me of a Chan Gailey that's been around and will know how to adapt to players.
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He wasn't a good DC for the Jets, and the linebackers were the biggest weakness under Rex but you have better players to run Rex's scheme than the Jets do. We never had a decent let alone good pass-rusher and you have 2. I'm happy to see him go but I don't think he is a bad fit for you guys
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:44 AM   #14
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He wasn't a good DC for the Jets, and the linebackers were the biggest weakness under Rex but you have better players to run Rex's scheme than the Jets do. We never had a decent let alone good pass-rusher and you have 2. I'm happy to see him go but I don't think he is a bad fit for you guys
You mean Mangini wasn't a good DC. Sutton had never ran that scheme before, so anyone with half a brain would know he wasn't the one running it.
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You mean Mangini wasn't a good DC. Sutton had never ran that scheme before, so anyone with half a brain would know he wasn't the one running it.
Yes, he called the plays but it was Mangini gameplanning and running it, you are correct. I still think he will do at worst the same as last season just because you have much better personnel to run the defense then we did when we were the number 1 D
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