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Old 01-03-2020, 11:46 AM  
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:06 PM   #16
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:09 PM   #17
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Absolute joke that Kittle got it over Kelce.
Their numbers are virtually identical on a per-game basis, Kittle played two fewer games.

The two are very close to one another, it's not an "absolute joke". It's a coin flip.
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:10 PM   #18
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I wouldn't call it an "absolute joke," but Kelce has definitely been insanely good this year. He's just done it slowly and steadily rather than through a smaller number of flashy plays.

Kelce: 1229 yards, 5 TDs
Kittle: 1053 yards, 5 TDs
They're both awesome. Could be argued either way. Kittle is the most important player on the 49ers offense, and arguably the only other player in the entire division more important than him is Russell Wilson.
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:15 PM   #19
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Let me guess. Lamar in as the QB?

Good job on Lamar. Good job staying healthy. Good job taking care of the football. Good job improving significantly as a passer from year 1 to 2. Good job on those impressive stats.

He’s not better than Patrick Mahomes. End of story.
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:19 PM   #20
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Let me guess. Lamar in as the QB?

Good job on Lamar. Good job staying healthy. Good job taking care of the football. Good job improving significantly as a passer from year 1 to 2. Good job on those impressive stats.

He’s not better than Patrick Mahomes. End of story.
1st team - Lamar Jackson
2nd team - Russell Wilson

Got no problem with that. They both had great years.
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:23 PM   #23
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Compare the stats. Kelce was the better tight end this season.
I think it's incredible that Kelce posted his numbers without Pat for three games.

Or to put it in another way, Kelce continued to post good stats with a HS football coach as his QB for 3 games.

But I get the Kittle thing. He did have a great season, on a team with a great record, in a high-profile market.
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:24 PM   #24
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:48 PM   #25
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They're both awesome. Could be argued either way. Kittle is the most important player on the 49ers offense, and arguably the only other player in the entire division more important than him is Russell Wilson.
everyone saw kittle fighting through a facemask...
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Kittle played in 14 games compared to 16 for Kelce. Both are outstanding players.
Apparently being out games counted against PM2...
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Apparently being out games counted against PM2...
Lamar and Russ has better seasons this year. Russ is the only reason why Seattle is in the playoffs
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Kelce - 97 Rec, 1229 Yds, 12.7 Avg, 5 TD
Kitlle - 85 Rec, 1053 Yds, 12.4 Avg, 5 TD


I don't understand the general, consensus fascination, outside of KC fans, with undermining Kelce and his accomplishments/greatness.
I would LOVE to know the 3rd down conversion stats for each of these guys
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Old 01-03-2020, 01:12 PM   #29
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I would LOVE to know the 3rd down conversion stats for each of these guys
Overall we were the best third down conversion team in the league and San Fran being number 5. Can’t find anything on the players tho
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Lamar and Russ has better seasons this year. Russ is the only reason why Seattle is in the playoffs
The argument I've been seeing for Kittle over Kelce is less games and similar production means you should be voted in over others who played more snaps/games. Logic doesn't work out for one position and not another.

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