Fruit Juice....just as bad for you as soda.

[CrazyPhuD]

Frankly this is the least surprising result in the history of science. Shocker...what's bad for you from obesity/diabetes is liquid calories that don't make you feel full. The fact that it's natural doesn't make it any better.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-0...ce-sugary.html

(Medical Xpress)—Drinking fruit juice is potentially just as bad for you as drinking sugar-sweetened drinks because of its high sugar content, two medical researchers from the University of Glasgow have warned.
Writing in The Lancet Diabetes and Endocrinology journal, Professor Naveed Sattar and Dr Jason Gill – both of the university's Institute of Cardiovascular and Medical Sciences – call for better labelling of fruit juice containers to make explicit to consumers that they should drink no more than 150ml a day.
They also recommend a change to the UK Government's current "five-a-day" guidelines, saying these five fruit and vegetable servings should no longer include a portion of fruit juice. Inclusion of fruit juice as a fruit equivalent is "probably counter-productive" because it "fuels the perception that drinking fruit juice is good for health, and thus need not be subject to the limits that many individuals impose on themselves for consumption of less healthy foods".
Professor Sattar, who is Professor of Metabolic Medicine, said: "Fruit juice has a similar energy density and sugar content to other sugary drinks, for example: 250ml of apple juice typically contains 110 kcal and 26g of sugar; and 250ml of cola typically contains 105kcal and 26.5g of sugar.
"Additionally, by contrast with the evidence for solid fruit intake, for which high consumption is generally associated with reduced or neutral risk of diabetes, current evidence suggests high fruit juice intake is associated with increased risk of diabetes."One glass of fruit juice contains substantially more sugar than one piece of fruit; in addition, much of the goodness in fruit – fibre, for example – is not found in fruit juice, or is there in far smaller amounts, explains Professor Sattar.
Although fruit juices contain vitamins and minerals, whereas sugar-sweetened drinks do not, Dr Gill argues that the micronutrient content of fruit juices "might not be sufficient to offset the adverse metabolic consequences of excessive fruit juice consumption".
In one scientific trial, for example, it was shown that, despite having a high antioxidant content, the consumption of half a litre of grape juice per day for three months actually increased insulin resistance and waist circumference in overweight adults."Thus, contrary to the general perception of the public, and of many healthcare professionals, that drinking fruit juice is a positive health behaviour, their consumption might not be substantially different in health terms than drinking other sugary drinks," said Dr Gill.
The researchers also tested public awareness of the sugar content of fruit juices, smoothies and sugar-sweetened drinks by carrying out an online poll of over 2000 adults. Participants were shown pictures of full containers of different non-alcoholic beverages and were asked to estimate the number of teaspoons of sugar contained in the portion shown. Although the sugar content of all drinks and smoothies was similar, the sugar content of fruit juices and smoothies was underestimated by 48% on average, whereas the sugar content of carbonated drinks was overestimated by 12%.
"Thus, there seems to be a clear misperception that fruit juices and smoothies are low-sugar alternatives to sugar-sweetened beverages," said Dr Gill.
There are strong public health reasons for targeting sugar-sweetened drinks, possibly through the imposition of an increase in taxation as a means of reducing consumption, argues Professor Sattar.
While there have been calls in the USA to eliminate all fruit-juice consumption by children, the researchers stop short of recommending similar moves in the UK. They also feel that a fruit juice tax would not be warranted. However, Professor Sattar argues: "In the broader context of public health policy, it is important that debate about sugar-sweetened beverage reduction should include fruit juice."
The debate around fruit juice comes as medical experts are focusing more closely on the link between high sugar consumption and heart disease risks.
Professor Sattar said: "We have known for years about the dangers of excess saturated fat intake, an observation which led the food industry to replace unhealthy fats with presumed 'healthier' sugars in many food products. Helping individuals cut not only their excessive fat intake, but also refined sugar intake, could have major health benefits including lessening obesity and heart attacks. Ultimately, there needs to be a refocus to develop foods which not only limit saturated fat intake but simultaneously limit refined sugar content."

[Baby Lee]

Only drink 100% juice not from concentrate, absolutely no HFCS.

But so damn expensive.

Most often, I make lemonade from squeezed lemon and sugar, then mix it with Lipton brewed tea for Arnold Palmers.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Only drink 100% juice not from concentrate, absolutely no HFCS.

But so damn expensive.

Most often, I make lemonade from squeezed lemon and sugar, then mix it with Lipton brewed tea for Arnold Palmers.

Only Tropicana 100% is what I buy.

[houstonwhodat]

Originally Posted by TheUte

JFC what can I have that is ok any more? Now no OJ in AM **** that.

OJ is in jail.

Where he belongs.

[houstonwhodat]

**** fruit juice anyway.

Get a Vitamix and make smoothies.

That thing will pulverize concrete.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by BCD

Only Tropicana 100% is what I buy.

Usually L&A, Trader Joe's brand, or Lakewood Organic for me.


Oh, and a shit ton of Tazo, Itoen, and Honest Teas.

Tazo's Brambleberry is the shizz, it's not even really tea so much.

An infusion of (water, hibiscus, cinnamon, peppermint, lemongrass, rosehips, orange peel, natural lemon essence), cane sugar, concentrated apple and marion blackberry juices, natural flavors, and citric acid.

[MahiMike]

Water is the answer.

[ThaVirus]

So basically this article is saying that juice is just as bad as soda from a weight loss perspective?

If you're trying to lose weight, you should be drinking nothing but water anyway.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

So basically this article is saying that juice is just as bad as soda from a weight loss perspective?

If you're trying to lose weight, you should be drinking nothing but water anyway.

high sugar content


the more processed the sugar the worse it is


there's a big old thread about it around here were people still argue that sugar is fine

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I guess I will stick with beer.

This.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

there's a big old thread about it around here were people still argue that sugar is fine

That's because there's still no solid scientific evidence that it's anything bad except in the general sense of too many calories, no matter if it's natural or processed or HFCS.

Nobody got ****ing fat eating fruit or drinking ****ing juice alone.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Silock

That's because there's still no solid scientific evidence that it's anything bad except in the general sense of too many calories, no matter if it's natural or processed or HFCS.

Nobody got ****ing fat eating fruit or drinking ****ing juice alone.

I haven't seen any concrete evidence that smoking crack every day is bad either

[Dayze]

that shit is terrible for you. that's a perfect example of why I stick my Kool-Aid.

[scho63]

Fruit Juice....just as bad for you as soda.

I stated this about a month or so ago in the "which is the best juicer to buy".

A complete waste of calories and the sugar content is usually sky high. In many cases it costs about $2 to make a single glass of juice with the need for so much fruit.

Plus trying to absorb vitamins by drinking them is so inefficient.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Dayze

that shit is terrible for you. that's a perfect example of why I stick my Kool-Aid.

You mean the Kool-aid that you're supposed to dump a cup of processed sugar into?

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Usually L&A, Trader Joe's brand, or Lakewood Organic for me.


Oh, and a shit ton of Tazo, Itoen, and Honest Teas.

Tazo's Brambleberry is the shizz, it's not even really tea so much.

have you tried Tazo's Mint Green Tea? Holy shit I love that stuff. I bought a big case of it a Costco, on a whim. Fell in love with it. Next time we went, I bought 2 cases. But since then, they haven't had it. I'll usually get a couple at the store though. Outstanding.