Interesting Stats for Brodie's First 3 Starts. - Page 2

Pablo · 12-09-2007, 11:33 PM

This is a re-post from a previous thread..at the request of another poster. Basically Brodie looks pretty damn good in comparison to some other HOF QB's in his first 3 starts.

If Brodie still "sucks" and lacks total pocket awareness by the end of next season I'd be worried.

Right now he is making good reads, doing his best behind this line and distributing the ball mostly accurately and timely.

I suppose if we wanted to look at the first three career stats of some HOF'ers to Brodie's we could do that.

Peyton Manning
62/114 - 54%
683 yards
2 TD's/8 INT's
7 Sacks
0-3 record

John Elway
28/62 - 45%
313 yards
1 TD/3 INT's
10 Sacks
2-1 record

Tom Brady
58/101 - 57%
618 yards
2 TD's/0 INT's
8 Sacks
2-1 record

Brodie Croyle
46/79 - 58%
446 yards
2 TD's/2 INT's
10 Sacks
0-3 record

While most of these stats have nothing to do with pocket presence, it's obviously some of the great QB's didn't develop it within 3 games. And Brodie has put up some reasonable numbers for his first few starts.

blueballs · 12-09-2007, 11:54 PM

Did Bowe play in cold weather games
don't follow college ball

KCJohnny · 12-09-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Troy Aikman
36/79 - 46%
504 yards
1 TD/6 INT's
6 Sacks
0-3 record

Boombada bing!

Croyle is looking pretty good!

Pablo · 12-09-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Given this oline, we really should spot Croyle 2 wins and 5 sacks.

FAX

It's only fair.

Pablo · 12-09-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

Did Bowe play in cold weather games
don't follow college ball

He attended LSU..so I doubt it very seriously.

FAX · 12-09-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

Did Bowe play in cold weather games
don't follow college ball

Good point. Not many. Not many at all.

FAX

KCJohnny · 12-09-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Good point. Not many. Not many at all.

FAX

He'd better learn, dammit, or we'll trade him to SD!

Pablo · 12-09-2007, 11:58 PM

To be fair, Brodie attended Alabama, and he said he's only seen snow twice in his life...

I'm sure cold weather is something he'll get used to, as will Bowe, but I'm willing to bet it's a tad more difficult to throw and catch in Denver than it was in the Southland.

Rasputin · 12-10-2007, 12:01 AM

So it's ok for Peyton, Aikman, Horseface, and a bunch of other young QBs to be given time to learn and teams build around them. But for KC Chiefs to give Brodie a chance and to build a team that can make him successfull, we can not. Go figure, we finally get a guy from the draft and he is put on a piss poor team like Peyton, Aikman and Horseface, were but we aint gonna give him a chance to be successfull for the long hall just get rid of him already. Bunch of BS to give up on Brodie JHC.

Pablo · 12-10-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

So it's ok for Peyton, Aikman, Horseface, and a bunch of other young QBs to be given time to learn and teams build around them. But for KC Chiefs to give Brodie a chance and to build a team that can make him successfull, we can not. Go figure, we finally get a guy from the draft and he is put on a piss poor team like Peyton, Aikman and Horseface, were but we aint gonna give him a chance to be successfull for the long hall just get rid of him already. Bunch of BS to give up on Brodie JHC.

Some folks want instant gratification.. That's how it's always going to be. I'm sure there were plenty of fans in Indy, Dallas and Denver calling for their respective HOF QB's heads in their first season or two. If Brodie doesn't perform consistently next year, or totally flops, then we might look to the draft in 2009 for some serious competition.

But I haven't given up on him yet, I don't think the vast majority of Chiefs fans have.

"Bob" Dobbs · 12-10-2007, 12:06 AM

The other point I haven't seen brought up is that this was Croyle/Bowe's first game in Denver. How do rookies usually fare at that altitude?

Hootie · 12-10-2007, 12:07 AM

I'm only pointing out that comparing Brodie's awful start to the awful start of three HOF's is ridiculous...

The ratio for young QB's who start out awful and turn out to be awful rather than HOF material is probably 100:1.

blueballs · 12-10-2007, 12:07 AM

It's easier to give up on a 3rd rounder
Hell look at those great Chiefs 2nd rounders

Rasputin · 12-10-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I'm only pointing out that comparing Brodie's awful start to the awful start of three HOF's is ridiculous...

The ratio for young QB's who start out awful and turn out to be awful rather than HOF material is probably 100:1.

Your just gonna nock on him cus your guy SUCKED and you want Brodie to fail too. HUARD FOREVER /

Rasputin · 12-10-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

It's easier to give up on a 3rd rounder
Hell look at those great Chiefs 2nd rounders

Oh yea all of those 2nd rounders, Matt Blundon &

ChiefsCountry · 12-10-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Oh yea all of those 2nd rounders, Matt Blundon &

Mike Elkins

12-09-2007, 11:33 PM
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North da River Casino cash: $1479356	Interesting Stats for Brodie's First 3 Starts. This is a re-post from a previous thread..at the request of another poster. Basically Brodie looks pretty damn good in comparison to some other HOF QB's in his first 3 starts. If Brodie still "sucks" and lacks total pocket awareness by the end of next season I'd be worried. Right now he is making good reads, doing his best behind this line and distributing the ball mostly accurately and timely. I suppose if we wanted to look at the first three career stats of some HOF'ers to Brodie's we could do that. Peyton Manning 62/114 - 54% 683 yards 2 TD's/8 INT's 7 Sacks 0-3 record John Elway 28/62 - 45% 313 yards 1 TD/3 INT's 10 Sacks 2-1 record Tom Brady 58/101 - 57% 618 yards 2 TD's/0 INT's 8 Sacks 2-1 record Brodie Croyle 46/79 - 58% 446 yards 2 TD's/2 INT's 10 Sacks 0-3 record While most of these stats have nothing to do with pocket presence, it's obviously some of the great QB's didn't develop it within 3 games. And Brodie has put up some reasonable numbers for his first few starts.
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blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Did Bowe play in cold weather games don't follow college ball
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Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North da River Casino cash: $1479356	To be fair, Brodie attended Alabama, and he said he's only seen snow twice in his life... I'm sure cold weather is something he'll get used to, as will Bowe, but I'm willing to bet it's a tad more difficult to throw and catch in Denver than it was in the Southland.
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3025421	So it's ok for Peyton, Aikman, Horseface, and a bunch of other young QBs to be given time to learn and teams build around them. But for KC Chiefs to give Brodie a chance and to build a team that can make him successfull, we can not. Go figure, we finally get a guy from the draft and he is put on a piss poor team like Peyton, Aikman and Horseface, were but we aint gonna give him a chance to be successfull for the long hall just get rid of him already. Bunch of BS to give up on Brodie JHC.
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"Bob" Dobbs Kickin' it in Dobbstown. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southeast Kansas Casino cash: $9824317	The other point I haven't seen brought up is that this was Croyle/Bowe's first game in Denver. How do rookies usually fare at that altitude?
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm only pointing out that comparing Brodie's awful start to the awful start of three HOF's is ridiculous... The ratio for young QB's who start out awful and turn out to be awful rather than HOF material is probably 100:1.
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