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Old 01-17-2021, 08:33 PM   #1
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The guy has to run enough as is on designed passes. As said, He's not backing off any call. You have running backs to get "tough yards". They're not called tough yards for nothing.

Mahomes throws the ball. He's the best on the planet. So until you have someone behind him that can do what he can, you leave the route running, and the plowing headlong into the teeth of the defense to the guys on your roster paid to ****ing do that.
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:35 PM   #2
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The guy has to run enough as is on designed passes. As said, He's not backing off any call. You have running backs to get "tough yards". They're not called tough yards for nothing.

Mahomes throws the ball. He's the best on the planet. So until you have someone behind him that can do what he can, you leave the plowing headlong into the teeth of the defense to the guys on your roster paid to ****ing do that.
Did you have this same problem on his TD run? It was the same play.

Mahomes has just had some weird fluke injuries on normal plays. It's not even like it was a collision concussion.
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:40 PM   #3
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Did you have this same problem on his TD run? It was the same play.

Mahomes has just had some weird fluke injuries on normal plays. It's not even like it was a collision concussion.

Yeah, it was just as risky. Exposing Mahomes intentionally to hits is stupid. Hes exposed enough on normal pass plays.

At least on the scoring play it got points. 3rd n1 and we lost Patrick and didnt even get the ****ing first.

If running your qb is the only way you know how to get a yard, you go some serious problems.
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:04 PM   #4
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At least on the scoring play it got points.
You just deligitimized your entire argument.
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Did you have this same problem on his TD run? It was the same play.

Mahomes has just had some weird fluke injuries on normal plays. It's not even like it was a collision concussion.
Yup
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:54 PM   #6
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Did you have this same problem on his TD run? It was the same play.



Mahomes has just had some weird fluke injuries on normal plays. It's not even like it was a collision concussion.
I'm still wondering where the sudden stop, the collision with something, happened to cause a concussion?

I'm not saying he isn't concussed, I'm just wondering when it happened during that tackle.
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:56 PM   #7
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I'm still wondering where the sudden stop, the collision with something, happened to cause a concussion?

I'm not saying he isn't concussed, I'm just wondering when it happened during that tackle.
Andy said postgame he got the wind knocked out of him more than anything.

Maybe he didn’t see the hit coming, because Mahomes is usually good about avoiding the big hits and giving himself up or getting out of bounds.
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:58 PM   #8
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I'm still wondering where the sudden stop, the collision with something, happened to cause a concussion?

I'm not saying he isn't concussed, I'm just wondering when it happened during that tackle.
Immediately after seeing the replay, I thought it looked like the blood supply to his brain was cut off and he blacked out like during a BJJ choke.

He tried to get back up before his brain had a chance to recover. By the time he was heading into the locker room, he was straight up running like it was no big deal.

There did not seem to be a concussive impact there. I don't even think there was any sub-concussive damage, TBH.

I am not a doctor, though.
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Immediately after seeing the replay, I thought it looked like the blood supply to his brain was cut off and he blacked out like during a BJJ choke.

He tried to get back up before his brain had a chance to recover. By the time he was heading into the locker room, he was straight up running like it was no big deal.

There did not seem to be a concussive impact there. I don't even think there was any sub-concussive damage, TBH.

I am not a doctor, though.
I am a doctor, and I thought the exact same thing.
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I'm still wondering where the sudden stop, the collision with something, happened to cause a concussion?

I'm not saying he isn't concussed, I'm just wondering when it happened during that tackle.
A couple people in the GDT mentioned something along the lines of "neck compression"... not a concussion, but something that can cause dizziness.

I watched that replay several times and there wasn't helmet to helmet contact and I'm pretty sure his head didn't make contact with the turf.

I'm sure their protocols side on extreme caution.
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A couple people in the GDT mentioned something along the lines of "neck compression"... not a concussion, but something that can cause dizziness.

I watched that replay several times and there wasn't helmet to helmet contact and I'm pretty sure his head didn't make contact with the turf.

I'm sure their protocols side on extreme caution.
He got knocked the **** out dude. lol. "dizziness"...
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A couple people in the GDT mentioned something along the lines of "neck compression"... not a concussion, but something that can cause dizziness.

I watched that replay several times and there wasn't helmet to helmet contact and I'm pretty sure his head didn't make contact with the turf.

I'm sure their protocols side on extreme caution.
Cool, that's kind of what I saw too.
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A couple people in the GDT mentioned something along the lines of "neck compression"... not a concussion, but something that can cause dizziness.

I watched that replay several times and there wasn't helmet to helmet contact and I'm pretty sure his head didn't make contact with the turf.

I'm sure their protocols side on extreme caution.
So the sleeper hold Roddy Roddy style in reverse?
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The guy has to run enough as is on designed passes. As said, He's not backing off any call. You have running backs to get "tough yards". They're not called tough yards for nothing.

Mahomes throws the ball. He's the best on the planet. So until you have someone behind him that can do what he can, you leave the route running, and the plowing headlong into the teeth of the defense to the guys on your roster paid to ****ing do that.
If you watched both games today, you saw more than one QB sneak.

Just stop.
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If you watched both games today, you saw more than one QB sneak.

Just stop.
I get what you're saying but sneaks are nothing like the kind of runs Patrick usually does or the one he got hurt on today. In fact he is the only QB I have ever seen get hurt on a sneak and that was a complete fluke.
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