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Old 09-18-2012, 08:57 AM   #1
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I root to flash custom roms and themes.

I like to tinker. You just can't do all that on an iPhone.
Yeah, I'd guess this is accurate for a vast majority of people who root their Android phones. The only apps I use that are root only these days are just the ones that are necessary to be able to root efficiently - Titanium Backup and a couple of file explorers. The apps I use on a day to day basis don't require root.

Instead, I root because I like playing around with different setting systems, launchers, themes, etc. It's more for fun than a need for any specific functionality that's missing.

The ONE functionality I use that is root-only is wireless tethering, and I use that a lot less than I would have expected. I've probably used it 2-3 times in the past six months.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:58 PM   #2
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:11 AM   #3
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I still can't ****ing believe I had to install iTunes on my PC and Goodreader on my iPad just to move ONE FILE from the PC to the iPad.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:15 AM   #4
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I still can't ****ing believe I had to install iTunes on my PC and Goodreader on my iPad just to move ONE FILE from the PC to the iPad.
That's the nature of Apple- the Berlin Wall of computing.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:18 AM   #5
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That's the nature of Apple- the Berlin Wall of computing.
iTunes is a "hook". I see why they do it.

One of my co-workers used to be an analyst at Xerox. He said the ONLY reason printer manufacturers bundle software free-of-charge is because it's a "hook" - people end up using the software (the path of least resistance) to buy paper, ink, and all kinds of other stuff.

Ultimately, they make infinitely more money via the use of the software than the software cost in the first place.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:26 AM   #6
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iTunes is a "hook". I see why they do it.

One of my co-workers used to be an analyst at Xerox. He said the ONLY reason printer manufacturers bundle software free-of-charge is because it's a "hook" - people end up using the software (the path of least resistance) to buy paper, ink, and all kinds of other stuff.

Ultimately, they make infinitely more money via the use of the software than the software cost in the first place.
exactly. The worst is printers that cost $50 bucks, but you have to replace the print cartridges every 6 weeks at $30 a piece.

Cant you use dropbox to transfer files from iPad to PC ?
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:34 AM   #7
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exactly. The worst is printers that cost $50 bucks, but you have to replace the print cartridges every 6 weeks at $30 a piece.

Cant you use dropbox to transfer files from iPad to PC ?
If you have an Internet connection, yes. In this case, I had need to transfer a file via USB.

They sent me an Android phone and an iPad. I use the Android for EVERYTHING work-related, including Good email. The iPad mostly sits by the couch in case I need to look something up or browse CP while I'm watching TV.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:09 AM   #8
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I still can't ****ing believe I had to install iTunes on my PC and Goodreader on my iPad just to move ONE FILE from the PC to the iPad.
Dropbox FTW.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:46 AM   #9
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Dropbox FTW.
No internet connection. Mentioned this already.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:40 AM   #10
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Awesome sarcastic slams on the features(or lack thereof) on the iPhone5...

10 Ways Android still beats the iPhone5

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Apple may be patting itself on the back over its move from a 3.5-inch to a 4-inch display, but in the smartphone size race, the iPhone 5 trails the field by a wide margin.

Congratulations iPhone 5 users! You now get an extra row of icons that you didn't have with the iPhone 4 and 4S. That means you can see your TweetDeck icon and tap on it without scrolling over. The Times Square billboard writes itself: "iPhone 5: Now with More Icons!"

Apple doesn't gamble on immature technologies so perhaps its understandable that the company has yet to include this new-fangled thing called "email attachments" on its iPhone 5.

Instead of MasterCard's Tap and Pay, you'll be using tap and pray as you rap your fingers on a table and hope that Apple provides NFC support on the iPhone 6 in 2013.

So what happens when you plug the iPhone 5 into your PC? You get access the digital camera (DCIM) folder only so all you can do is drag and drop pictures. Yes, you can iTunes to transfer media files back and forth, but you still can't go directly into file system because Apple just doesn't trust you enough to let you see the folders on the iPhone 5 that you bought from them. Whose phone is it anyway?

With the iPhone 5, you can have any keyboard you want as long as its the stock iOS 6 keyboard.

Why not just use micro USB like every other company? Then you couldn't make a mint selling proprietary wires and making every iPhone 4S owner that upgrades buy new accessories, because older iPhones had an even larger proprietary dock connector.

The default Safari browser and iOS photo gallery apps can only share to Facebook, Twitter, Email and messaging. Google, Flickr, Pinterest, Google Talk, and any of 100 other services need not apply.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:40 AM   #11
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Awesome sarcastic slams on the features(or lack thereof) on the iPhone5...

10 Ways Android still beats the iPhone5

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Apple may be patting itself on the back over its move from a 3.5-inch to a 4-inch display, but in the smartphone size race, the iPhone 5 trails the field by a wide margin.

Congratulations iPhone 5 users! You now get an extra row of icons that you didn't have with the iPhone 4 and 4S. That means you can see your TweetDeck icon and tap on it without scrolling over. The Times Square billboard writes itself: "iPhone 5: Now with More Icons!"

Apple doesn't gamble on immature technologies so perhaps its understandable that the company has yet to include this new-fangled thing called "email attachments" on its iPhone 5.

Instead of MasterCard's Tap and Pay, you'll be using tap and pray as you rap your fingers on a table and hope that Apple provides NFC support on the iPhone 6 in 2013.

So what happens when you plug the iPhone 5 into your PC? You get access the digital camera (DCIM) folder only so all you can do is drag and drop pictures. Yes, you can iTunes to transfer media files back and forth, but you still can't go directly into file system because Apple just doesn't trust you enough to let you see the folders on the iPhone 5 that you bought from them. Whose phone is it anyway?

With the iPhone 5, you can have any keyboard you want as long as its the stock iOS 6 keyboard.

Why not just use micro USB like every other company? Then you couldn't make a mint selling proprietary wires and making every iPhone 4S owner that upgrades buy new accessories, because older iPhones had an even larger proprietary dock connector.

The default Safari browser and iOS photo gallery apps can only share to Facebook, Twitter, Email and messaging. Google, Flickr, Pinterest, Google Talk, and any of 100 other services need not apply.
There's quite a bit of inaccuracy in this to be honest.

You can receive or send just about any kind of attachment in iOS. I just outlined one method in the previous post.

NFC is somewhat debatable. And we've discussed it already. While I would have personally really liked to see NFC on iPhone5, there are lots of reasons why it's not that big of a deal right now. For one, NFC support has met resistance so far in the market. Currently there aren't many available outlets using it. AustinChief has pointed out more than I thought there were, but it's still in infancy as far as adoption. Currently, there's only a handful of locations in the KC area that support Google Wallet and Paypass:


Less than a year ago, Verizon was blocking Google Wallet from their new phones: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...y-concern.html

They have just recently changed their minds and said they would support it on current phones. But NFC is far from being established as a sure bet.

Regarding connecting your phone to a PC, that's also misinformed. Apple has always allowed access to the sandboxed Home folder in iOS. I posted a response above as well showing exactly how to access that, and it doesn't require jailbreak. And FYI, this is the exact same behavior as Android. Android also does not "Trust" users with the full file system. They also sandbox a Home folder in exactly the same way. You can't access the full filesystem in Android unless you root. Permissions prevent that. (Whose phone is it anyway?)

As far as the keyboard, that's another reason I jailbreak. Here's a keyboard I made for my iPad:



The question about MicroUSB connector has been hashed and argued in the Apple connector thread. This author, like so many other people other than AC, wanted the iPhone5 to use MicroUSB. But it's been shown the the MicroUSB is insufficient for several reasons. It doesn't have enough pins, and doesn't provide sufficient amperage to charge all iDevices. A newer 11pin MicroUSB3vB would have been sufficient for addressing most of that. But that still would have required the same connector change for all users, including all those other companies that currently use MicroUSB.

I'm not exactly sure what they're talking about regarding Safari and sharing to online services. You can use any service you want. Personally, I use the Chrome browser on iOS, which is infinitely better than Safari.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:14 AM   #12
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you mean they dont wash your dishes and clothes yet?

heh, the expecatations placed upon these smartphones now is getting ridiculous.

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I'm anything but an Apple homer, and none of those things mean anything to me. I guess the only thing that might be nice is a mini HDMI port, but I don't think I would use that very often.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:49 AM   #14
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I'm anything but an Apple homer, and none of those things mean anything to me. I guess the only thing that might be nice is a mini HDMI port, but I don't think I would use that very often.
If my girls' Kindle Fires had mini-HDMI out, we wouldn't need a Roku player for their bedroom...
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The lack of most of these features don't mean a lot to me, but there was nothing that extraordinary that made me want to switch from Android and I actually wanted to.
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