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Old 11-22-2004, 04:27 PM  
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The Hemp Thread.

It is amazing what this plant can do. Im a Christian at heart, and believe that God gave us this bad ass plant to help us out.

* the first Bibles were printed on hemp paper
* the first US flag was made out of hemp
* the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence were printed on hemp paper.
* an acre of hemp produces more than 4 times the amount of paper than an acre of trees, and it grows back in less than a year
* Henry Ford made a hemp-mobile
* "Marijuana" is just the Hispanic name for hemp, they are the exact same plant. (The name, "marijuana", was used by law enforcement and the media for this "Mexican killer weed" to taboo and sensationalize it in concerned American's minds.)
* Birds live 20% longer when hemp seed is a part of their diet
* Hemp seed oil has been used (and should be used) in everything from engine oil and paint, to cosmetics and foods for man and beast alike
* In the 1600s, there were places in the US where growing hemp was enforced by law
* You could pay your taxes with hemp for 200 years during the 1700s in the US
* Hemp seeds have been a staple and a life-saver during many famines and food shortages throughout history (over 60% of Third World children are dying everyday because of protein starvation , but Mr. Government says they can't grow it - it's against the law!)
* There are receptors in the brain which science has found will bind with THC compounds alone, and no other
* The depletion of the ozone layer threatens to reduce soy crops by up to 50%, but hemp is immune to the damages of ultraviolet light (it actually makes it produce more of the resin that contains the THC)
* Hemp is a more prolific producer of ethanol than corn
* Hemp requires little to no industry, it grows in the ground (cleaning the soil of toxins), then is cut, dried, and utilized... (Does it make any sense that the government doesn't jump on this, legalize it and tax the pants off of it instead of increasing everyone’s already-insane taxes to reduce the country's deficit?? Tax pot!)
* Buddha lived on ONE hemp seed a day for over 5 years.
* And apparently if you set it on fire and inhale the smoke of it, it gives you a euphoric feeling.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every green herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
-Genesis 1:29 -

"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes."
-Abe Lincoln, 1840

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Old 11-22-2004, 04:58 PM   #16
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If that is all you got for a DUI, then I wouldn't complain too much. I know people that have wrecked their car, hit a house, killed someone...
Uhh, no, there's more to it than that. Financially, work related, etc., etc. It's the phuggin gift that keeps on giving.
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Old 11-22-2004, 04:58 PM   #17
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BTW, when I say I sat in on a Drug and Alcohol class, I actually mean to say that I was sent there to be a part of it due to a DUI. It was 8 hours of my life that I will never get back. If they offered death as an alternative, I might have chosen it.
Yeah, I had the pleasure of one of those almost 20 years ago. It was awful. They took roll after every break.
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Old 11-22-2004, 05:00 PM   #18
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That's what you get for getting arrested in Wichita.

Get your DUI in Tempe, AZ next time. You'll at least have some 19 year old ASU eye candy.
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Next time? Uhh, let's jut hope there isn't a "next time".....
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Old 11-22-2004, 05:01 PM   #19
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You left out the word legal.
Nope. Legal, or not...if it were profitable and cost-efficient, we'd already be there.
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Old 11-22-2004, 05:04 PM   #20
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I'd guess that at least 40% of the 30 people in my class were alcoholics. I'd also say that 95% of them were the biggest fn losers in the world.....
You were really jealous of the other 5%, weren't you Chi?
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Old 11-22-2004, 05:15 PM   #21
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You were really jealous of the other 5%, weren't you Chi?
Yes, very much
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Old 11-22-2004, 06:31 PM   #22
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It is amazing what this plant can do. Im a Christian at heart, and believe that God gave us this bad ass plant to help us out.

* the first Bibles were printed on hemp paper
* the first US flag was made out of hemp
* the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence were printed on hemp paper.
* an acre of hemp produces more than 4 times the amount of paper than an acre of trees, and it grows back in less than a year
* Henry Ford made a hemp-mobile
* "Marijuana" is just the Hispanic name for hemp, they are the exact same plant. (The name, "marijuana", was used by law enforcement and the media for this "Mexican killer weed" to taboo and sensationalize it in concerned American's minds.)
* Birds live 20% longer when hemp seed is a part of their diet
* Hemp seed oil has been used (and should be used) in everything from engine oil and paint, to cosmetics and foods for man and beast alike
* In the 1600s, there were places in the US where growing hemp was enforced by law
* You could pay your taxes with hemp for 200 years during the 1700s in the US
* Hemp seeds have been a staple and a life-saver during many famines and food shortages throughout history (over 60% of Third World children are dying everyday because of protein starvation , but Mr. Government says they can't grow it - it's against the law!)
* There are receptors in the brain which science has found will bind with THC compounds alone, and no other
* The depletion of the ozone layer threatens to reduce soy crops by up to 50%, but hemp is immune to the damages of ultraviolet light (it actually makes it produce more of the resin that contains the THC)
* Hemp is a more prolific producer of ethanol than corn
* Hemp requires little to no industry, it grows in the ground (cleaning the soil of toxins), then is cut, dried, and utilized... (Does it make any sense that the government doesn't jump on this, legalize it and tax the pants off of it instead of increasing everyone’s already-insane taxes to reduce the country's deficit?? Tax pot!)
* And apparently if you set it on fire and inhale the smoke of it, it gives you a euphoric feeling.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every green herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
-Genesis 1:29 -

"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes."
-Abe Lincoln, 1840
damn and all I did with it was smoke the shit.
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Old 11-22-2004, 06:40 PM   #23
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I am for not legalizing it. I don't want to ruin the fun of sneaking around smoking it taken away from future generations.
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Old 11-22-2004, 06:42 PM   #24
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I was our Batallion D & A officer, for two years when I was an officer.

First thing we should do, is cut the charade--let's cut to the chase; medicinal marijuana, and hemp, are attempts by those in favor of legalization to bring in their idea through the back door. Period. It is an elaborate pretense aimed at making it more socially acceptable, and readily available--to get more people "on the bandwagon." Marinol does the job of medicinal marijuana; and hemp simply is, as yet, not an economical or cost effiecient alternative to the items they claim it can be used for--if it were, it would be DONE. We live in a free market, capitalist economy--if hemp were truly profitable and a viable alternative, we'd be there all ready.

Secondly, in Utopia, where citizens are free to make their own choices, and suffer the consequences (or not) of their choices, most of us would agree we should lift the prohibition. However, we don't live in Utopia.

We live in a welfare state, that insists on redistributing wealth to help those who are poor, sick, and otherwise "disadvantaged" (I'm NOT sayin' that's a bad thing; just how willing are "we" to foot the bill for addicts though?) Additional dependency and addiction that would surely result (despite the denials of the Grass Roots, or "High Times" folks) from "legalization" would impose a tremendous financial burden on the rest of society--a burden that most of us would greatly resent.

Guarantee me, that not one additional red cent of taxpayer dollars would be used to address the fall-out from "legalization"--and I'd be on board. Otherwise, why would we want to add another major addiction, another major problem....to join with alcohol and tobacco as societal problems?
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hey idiot, it already is the number one cash crop in america. It already is a major problem for right wing conservative assholes who would rather push the viagra, marlboro, bud light drugs on kids and adults most indescriminately with the constant media ads. By the way Marinol does not work as well as smoking, because pot that is smoked has cannabiniods that marinol doesn't have. These cannabiniods produce some of the antinausea, pain supressant and antidepressant effects of the medication. The reason it isn't legal. Money. The corporate assholes have alchohol tobacco and the presciption shit so well regulated. If people start spending money first on weed that growing their own weed the corporations see none of that bread. It's all about money and not about anything else.
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Nope. Legal, or not...if it were profitable and cost-efficient, we'd already be there.
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I maintain that it will not be legalized until there is a way to field test sobriety. At this time there is no way that I know of to tell if someone driving down the road is under the influence or not.
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Old 11-22-2004, 07:01 PM   #29
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Draw blood.
That's pretty tough to do in the field. At least with alcohol, it can be done right at the scene. I doubt cops would be willing or qualified to draw blood on the spot.
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Marinol does the job of medicinal marijuana; and hemp simply is, as yet, not an economical or cost effiecient alternative to the items they claim it can be used for--if it were, it would be DONE. We live in a free market, capitalist economy--if hemp were truly profitable and a viable alternative, we'd be there all ready.
SD, do you have any idea how easy it is to grow hemp? It grows in the ditches, it grows where you plant it, it grows all over the place in the wild.

The reason hemp is illegal is due to the fact that is was TOO ECONOMICALLY VIABLE. William Randolph Hearst owned huge surplus' of white pine forests in the early part of the 20th century. About that time, machinery was invented that could easily strip hemp for the manufacture of paper, and that would endanger Hearsts near monopoly on wood pulp and the manufacture of newsprint. Hearst created "Reefer Madness" and bought politicians to make it illegal and secure his paper fortune.

As far as making it available, there was a suspension of hemp's illegal nature during WWII, when hemp seed oil, hemp rope and other usable items were manufactured in force. George Bush's life was saved by hemp - his airplane used hemp seed oil as a lubricant, and in that famous shot of him crash landing on an aircraft carrier - those ropes he hooked were made of hemp.

And don't forget that both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew hemp...

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