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Old 04-20-2005, 06:04 PM  
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Raiders back in 1st Round
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Raiders have traded TE Doug Jolley and a 2nd rounder to the Jets for their 1st rounder.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:27 PM   #16
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Al is making Carl look like an idiot.
And Carl sure as hell doesn't need any help in that regard.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:29 PM   #17
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where did you hear it was for the 47th? I thought they would have to give up their early 2nd rounder.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:29 PM   #18
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RAiders dealt the 47th pick and a couple 6th rounders... Man, this Al Davis is good.

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Old 04-20-2005, 06:30 PM   #19
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Al is making Carl look like an idiot.
Patience, Patience it ain't over. Chiefs sell out and the Raiders do not, Davis is trying to sell tickets not build a team.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:32 PM   #20
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Patience, Patience it ain't over. Chiefs sell out and the Raiders do not, Davis is trying to sell tickets not build a team.
Wait, what? Who gives a shit about selling out the stadium right now? Al is making better deals this offseason period. If Carl is just BSing then I will happily eat my own words, but after the press conference I am really frustrated.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:34 PM   #21
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I don't know that I'd saint Al just yet, that team has even less of a defense than we do.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:35 PM   #22
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Al's giving his team a better chance to win than Carl is doing for us. And I absolutely hate saying that.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:38 PM   #23
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I can't believe this s***...I hate this deal and am hoping we get something else or its just a bad rumor...

maybe jolly fails his phsyical
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Not everyone is against it, but some people are pissed.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:39 PM   #24
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Haha....it's nice to see other teams suffer for a change.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:42 PM   #25
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Wait, what? Who gives a shit about selling out the stadium right now? Al is making better deals this offseason period. If Carl is just BSing then I will happily eat my own words, but after the press conference I am really frustrated.

Maybe I missed something on the press conference, I just got back from playing Golf. One lesson that I did learn a long time ago was not to pay any attention to the media reports during Draft week. I hope that is of some consolation, I actually find it humerous what some of the owners do during this time period to excite the fans. Thus my statement, Al Davis needs badly to sell tickets, he needs to generate some off season hype even though it may not make much football sense. My patience statement was intended to put into perspective the whole picture of the off season. I do not think Al Davis could suck the stains out of Carl Petersons shorts.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:44 PM   #26
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Haha....it's nice to see other teams suffer for a change.
They can blame it on Carl, since Bradway was one of Carl's top assistents here for a few years.

Apple clearly didn't fall far from the tree.
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Wait, what? Who gives a shit about selling out the stadium right now? Al is making better deals this offseason period. If Carl is just BSing then I will happily eat my own words, but after the press conference I am really frustrated.
i heard carl start talking about a 95% season ticket renewal, when asked about his offseason moves.

al traded two mediocre's today for a 1st and a 3rd rounder. that's about it in a nutshell. it's not like they didnt have any value or anything.

jolley could catch like crazy but couldnt block.

phillip can succeed at nickle but not a starter. phil isnt smart enough to be responsible for his duties. he needs to be in a role that is not quite so demanding mentally. LOL!!! he aint too damned bright.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:53 PM   #28
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phillip can succeed at nickle but not a starter. phil isnt smart enough to be responsible for his duties. he needs to be in a role that is not quite so demanding mentally. LOL!!! he aint too damned bright.
I wouldn't let Voyager hear that.
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Listening to guys bitch on the radio about how much the Chiefs suck because of this deal makes me feel obligated to point out that until Surtain is traded somewhere else or the trade is declared dead by all involved, there's absolutely no reason to get upset. I do understand that years of disappointment make it hard to be objective and that we're all conditioned to prepare for the worst, but it's not over 'til it's over...
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Listening to guys bitch on the radio about how much the Chiefs suck because of this deal makes me feel obligated to point out that until Surtain is traded somewhere else or the trade is declared dead by all involved, there's absolutely no reason to get upset. I do understand that years of disappointment make it hard to be objective and that we're all conditioned to prepare for the worst, but it's not over 'til it's over...

Very nicely done, the point I was trying to make. Al Davis is nobody and does nothing to admire, damn! Have we already forgotton the signings of Bell and Knight? The fact that he added another Cancer (Randy Moss) to his roster will offset many good moves IMO.
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