And in the 3rd round the Chiefs take...

[Michael Michigan]

Dustin Colquitt



Dammitt--dupe.

[dirk digler]

I like this pick this automatically helps the D.

[LamarJr]

He holds the school's career records for most punts and punting yardage, topping the previous marks of 204 punts for 8,862 yards by Craig Colquitt (1975-77). His career punting average is surpassed only by Jimmy Colquitt (43.9, 1981-84) in school annals.

Does this guy come from a kicking family or what???????

[whoman69]

30% inside the 20 is an unheard of ratio, especially for someone with a good average. Mel seemed to think he was inconsistent, but we have been consistently poor in the punting game the last several years.

[Amnorix]

In my humble opinion, there has never been a punter born that was worth a 3rd round pick. Ever.

The Patriots suffered through UNBELIEVABLY horrendous punting during the '02 and '03 seasons, and I still would not have been happy to have such a high pick spent on a punter.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

In my humble opinion

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HOHOHOHO!! TEE-HEE-HEE!! HAHAHAHA!!!

Heh. (sniffle) (cough) hehe. Um. Mm.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HAHAHAHA!!

[buddha]

I love the pick as well. A left footed punter is a great advantage! Teams usually scheme their blocks for right footed punters. The other positive is that the ball just comes off differently when a lefty boots it...one more thing for the return guys to prepare for that's different. I like this pick, and it was a desperate area of need.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

In my humble opinion, there has never been a punter born that was worth a 3rd round pick. Ever.

Please???

You wouldn't have spent a third round pick on Ray Guy? On Reggie Roby? Are you kidding me? A great punter is a 10-year weapon that becomes the basis for field position every week.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HOHOHOHO!! TEE-HEE-HEE!! HAHAHAHA!!!

Heh. (sniffle) (cough) hehe. Um. Mm.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HAHAHAHA!!

So, umm, what are you saying....?

(note to self: never use "in my humble opinion" ever again, they're on to me...)

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by buddha

Please???

You wouldn't have spent a third round pick on Ray Guy? On Reggie Roby? Are you kidding me? A great punter is a 10-year weapon that becomes the basis for field position every week.

No, I wouldn't. Not in THIS era.

In the 70's, with no free agency, the ONLY way you'd have any hope of having a really good punter was to draft one. If you had a miserable punting situation, then the pick might be worth it.

NOW, with free agency AND the salary cap, there's no way they're worth a high pick, in my NOT SO (tip of cap to SK) humble opinion. Here's a couple reasons why:

1. One of the biggest benefits of the draft is access to CHEAP talent. The only hope you have of having a good or great position player, for less than a brinks truck worth of $$, is to draft well and take advantage of his early years in the NFL. The Patriots are paying Richard Seymour like $1.5M or something ridiculous this year. A 3 time Pro Bowler, 2 time All Pro. Why? Because he's still in his initial NFL contract.

The most expensive punter in the NFL doesn't cost that much, so you're not using this pick to get a cheap position player. You're using it on a position that's ALREADY cheap.


2. With free agency, if your punting situation isn't good, it's relatively easy to just pay someone to come in and be an average or better performer. Unlike getting a mid or top CB, this hardly breaks your salary cap. In other words, the punting position is eminently "fixable" through free agency, without spending a pick.

3. A great punter doesn't impact a team or a game like a great position player. Reggie Roby or Ray Guy still isn't worth 1/10th of a Curtis Martin (3rd round pick), Terrell Davis (6th round), Tom Brady (3rd round), Joe Montana (3rd round), etc. Obviously, if any team KNEW how good these guys were, they wouldn't last until that round. But still, the 3rd round is a first day pick, a top 100 guy, and should represent significant value to your team. To spend it on a punter.... ... just not something I would do.

These would be some of the main reasons I cannot imagine ever spendign such a high pick on a punter.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

No, I wouldn't. Not in THIS era.

In the 70's, with no free agency, the ONLY way you'd have any hope of having a really good punter was to draft one. If you had a miserable punting situation, then the pick might be worth it.

NOW, with free agency AND the salary cap, there's no way they're worth a high pick, in my NOT SO (tip of cap to SK) humble opinion. Here's a couple reasons why:

1. One of the biggest benefits of the draft is access to CHEAP talent. The only hope you have of having a good or great position player, for less than a brinks truck worth of $$, is to draft well and take advantage of his early years in the NFL. The Patriots are paying Richard Seymour like $1.5M or something ridiculous this year. A 3 time Pro Bowler, 2 time All Pro. Why? Because he's still in his initial NFL contract.

The most expensive punter in the NFL doesn't cost that much, so you're not using this pick to get a cheap position player. You're using it on a position that's ALREADY cheap.


2. With free agency, if your punting situation isn't good, it's relatively easy to just pay someone to come in and be an average or better performer. Unlike getting a mid or top CB, this hardly breaks your salary cap. In other words, the punting position is eminently "fixable" through free agency, without spending a pick.

3. A great punter doesn't impact a team or a game like a great position player. Reggie Roby or Ray Guy still isn't worth 1/10th of a Curtis Martin (3rd round pick), Terrell Davis (6th round), Tom Brady (3rd round), Joe Montana (3rd round), etc. Obviously, if any team KNEW how good these guys were, they wouldn't last until that round. But still, the 3rd round is a first day pick, a top 100 guy, and should represent significant value to your team. To spend it on a punter.... ... just not something I would do.

These would be some of the main reasons I cannot imagine ever spendign such a high pick on a punter.

no one gives a ****

we needed a punter, Chiefs fans know this...we just drafted a starter with the 99th pick in the draft....

note to self: you are not actually Belicheck, you're just a Patriots fan who likes to lecture people....

[Chan93lx50]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

no one gives a ****

we needed a punter, Chiefs fans know this...we just drafted a starter with the 99th pick in the draft....

note to self: you are not actually Belicheck, you're just a Patriots fan who likes to lecture people....

Ha ha ha, I never have been able to put a finger on the way Amnorix presents himself in his posts but you nailed it!

[redsurfer11]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

No, I wouldn't. Not in THIS era.

In the 70's, with no free agency, the ONLY way you'd have any hope of having a really good punter was to draft one. If you had a miserable punting situation, then the pick might be worth it.

NOW, with free agency AND the salary cap, there's no way they're worth a high pick, in my NOT SO (tip of cap to SK) humble opinion. Here's a couple reasons why:

1. One of the biggest benefits of the draft is access to CHEAP talent. The only hope you have of having a good or great position player, for less than a brinks truck worth of $$, is to draft well and take advantage of his early years in the NFL. The Patriots are paying Richard Seymour like $1.5M or something ridiculous this year. A 3 time Pro Bowler, 2 time All Pro. Why? Because he's still in his initial NFL contract.

The most expensive punter in the NFL doesn't cost that much, so you're not using this pick to get a cheap position player. You're using it on a position that's ALREADY cheap.
Having a quality punter makes a great way to improve the defense, but he needs ti\o in
mprove his hang time.
Got to get my son back toi the field to start punting again. He's 6'-2" and 180 pounds. Haven't had a chance to get him out there since my knee surguries. He can hit the ball 40 to 60 yards, but he needs work on his timing.




2. With free agency, if your punting situation isn't good, it's relatively easy to just pay someone to come in and be an average or better performer. Unlike getting a mid or top CB, this hardly breaks your salary cap. In other words, the punting position is eminently "fixable" through free agency, without spending a pick.

3. A great punter doesn't impact a team or a game like a great position player. Reggie Roby or Ray Guy still isn't worth 1/10th of a Curtis Martin (3rd round pick), Terrell Davis (6th round), Tom Brady (3rd round), Joe Montana (3rd round), etc. Obviously, if any team KNEW how good these guys were, they wouldn't last until that round. But still, the 3rd round is a first day pick, a top 100 guy, and should represent significant value to your team. To spend it on a punter.... ... just not something I would do.

These would be some of the main reasons I cannot imagine ever spendign such a high pick on a punter.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

In my humble opinion, there has never been a punter born that was worth a 3rd round pick. Ever.

The Patriots suffered through UNBELIEVABLY horrendous punting during the '02 and '03 seasons, and I still would not have been happy to have such a high pick spent on a punter.

Says the guy who's team franchised a kicker. We needed a punter, we drafted the BEST PROSPECT in the ENTIRE draft. Why don't you ask the Raiders how well Lechler is working out for them? It's not a sexy pick, but it addresses a huge need with the best prospect in the nation.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

there has never been a punter born that was worth a 3rd round pick.

I would normally agree, but we are talking about the 99th pick of the draft here, a comp two before the end of the round. I'd probably be upset about it if it'd been the 65th or 70th pick. I think Vermeil's comment that they say you take a specialist a round higher than his value or you probably won't get him gives some insight into the logic, too. And you have to remember we've been trying to find a punter for five years. Free agency and trading just hasn't worked for us, so it's time to try a different strategy.

[Frosty]

Wasn't there talk that Denver was really considering this guy in the third? If so, not only do we get a (supposedly) great kicker but we stick Denver with Jason Baker and Clarett.