Have Chiefs turned the corner? - Page 2

chiefsfan1963 · 12-01-2005, 08:04 PM

Curious what people think this team can accomplish from here on out.

I feel a shift for the better for this team. Here is some things to consider: Players are the healthiest they've been all year, the competition going forward is the toughest any team will face in this league, but b/c several players will be retiring after this year it puts added motivation for the team to overachieve despite their schedule, all the sports media expect this team to implode under the pressure, the realization we are in control of our destiny, also I believe we have the chance to make history by being one of the first teams to win the super bowl after a 7-4 start. Some of you fact checkers can confirm this.

all this leads me to believe that we can be the team under the radar that can get it done. Just throwing it out there.

CoMoChief · 12-01-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

Curious what people think this team can accomplish from here on out.

I feel a shift for the better for this team. Here is some things to consider: Players are the healthiest they've been all year, the competition going forward is the toughest any team will face in this league, but b/c several players will be retiring after this year it puts added motivation for the team to overachieve despite their schedule, all the sports media expect this team to implode under the pressure, the realization we are in control of our destiny, also I believe we have the chance to make history by being one of the first teams to win the super bowl after a 7-4 start. Some of you fact checkers can confirm this.

all this leads me to believe that we can be the team under the radar that can get it done. Just throwing it out there.

Didnt the Pats in '01-'02 win it all with a 7-4 record at this time?

tk13 · 12-01-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

Didnt the Pats in '01-'02 win it all with a 7-4 record at this time?

The '01 Pats were 6-5 at this point. They didn't lose another game.

The 2000 Baltimore Ravens were 7-4 at this point and won a Super Bowl. The '02 Raiders were 7-4 at this point and went to the Super Bowl. The '03 Panthers were 8-5 a couple games after this point and went to the Super Bowl.

**petegz28** · 12-01-2005, 09:15 PM

I think as long as Roaf stays healthy and the Defense keeps doing what they are doing then we are going to be make a strong run at the right time.

I call us 11-5 IF we beat Denver. 10-6 otherwise.

unlurking · 12-01-2005, 09:17 PM

Personally, I'm preparing for a loss against Denver. My wife is ready to kill me after games I set my hopes too high on and we lose. If we beat Denver, I'll probably be back to being the rose colored homer I am at the start of every season.

htismaqe · 12-01-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

The '01 Pats were 6-5 at this point. They didn't lose another game.

The 2000 Baltimore Ravens were 7-4 at this point and won a Super Bowl. The '02 Raiders were 7-4 at this point and went to the Super Bowl. The '03 Panthers were 8-5 a couple games after this point and went to the Super Bowl.

While that looks encouraging at first glance, the 01 Pats closed the season against the Jets, Browns, Bills, Dolphins, and Panthers. The Jets and Dolphins combined for 21 wins. The Browns, Bills, and Panthers combined for just 11.

We play 5 potential playoff teams. It's gonna be tough. Thank God we have the conference games at home.

Chiefnj · 12-01-2005, 09:25 PM

Have they turned the corner? Yes. They can now beat teams they should beat.

Are they good enough to beat 5 playoff contenders in a row? Nope.

tk13 · 12-01-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

While that looks encouraging at first glance, the 01 Pats closed the season against the Jets, Browns, Bills, Dolphins, and Panthers. The Jets and Dolphins combined for 21 wins. The Browns, Bills, and Panthers combined for just 11.

We play 5 potential playoff teams. It's gonna be tough. Thank God we have the conference games at home.

I could give a crap. Yeah our schedule is tougher, but there's no reason to be afraid. We've played pretty well in Arrowhead. Win at home, split the road games. That's all I've been saying for weeks now. If we can do that, we're 11-5... if that doesn't get us in then it wasn't meant to be.

Deberg_1990 · 12-01-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

We aren't "pretenders", we're a decent football team. Really, since the bye week, we have outplayed everybody on our schedule, save one bad half of football against San Diego on the road. We lost the San Diego game, and even had our chances to come back there... and the Bills game, another tough road site, where we basically got beat on 2 outstanding plays. That's the NFL.

I have a good feeling about this team. I had some serious doubts early on, but I like where we're at. I think with Roaf healthy, this is the best team we've fielded under Vermeil. We can beat anybody in the NFL right now.

I would tend to agree with this for the most part. The jury is still out on whether or not we can beat a decent team on the road though. I have my doubts. Personally, I think the rest of the season goes like this:

Denver - Win We always play Denver tough at home.

@ Dallas - Win Dallas is NOT as good as their record. Ever win of theirs is a squeeker

@ Giants - loss NO way we win in NY. We have never played good against Coughlin teams

Bolts - loss Marty is the best REGULAR SEASOn coach of all time.

Cinci - Win Their D is soft. The wont be able to stop our offense.

Just a gut feeling, but ill bet we end up 10-6. Who knows if that will get us in or not??

htismaqe · 12-01-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I could give a crap. Yeah our schedule is tougher, but there's no reason to be afraid. We've played pretty well in Arrowhead. Win at home, split the road games. That's all I've been saying for weeks now. If we can do that, we're 11-5... if that doesn't get us in then it wasn't meant to be.

I'm not scared either. Just pointing out that our path is more difficult than some of those past team.

But you're absolutely right - if we do win these games, we're meant to be there. Beyond that, I think if we do get in, it means we beat a bunch of contenders and we're gonna be tough to deal with in the playoffs.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-01-2005, 10:01 PM

If we can beat the Broncos, I think we'll get hot and go on a winning a streak.. In order to do that, we have to beat the Broncos. The team says they feel good now, but I don't know how much I believe that (they know the Texans and the Pats weren't that good of teams, even though the Pats are the defending champs, they are injured). It's going to take beating the Broncos to really set this team off on a long winning streak.

chiefsfan1963 · 12-01-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Haven't you already done this thread today?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=130172

You've got like 5 threads on the front page, you're turning into Gunther Fan....

I am what I am!

chiefsfan1963 · 12-01-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

We aren't "pretenders", we're a decent football team. Really, since the bye week, we have outplayed everybody on our schedule, save one bad half of football against San Diego on the road. We lost the San Diego game, and even had our chances to come back there... and the Bills game, another tough road site, where we basically got beat on 2 outstanding plays. That's the NFL.

I have a good feeling about this team. I had some serious doubts early on, but I like where we're at. I think with Roaf healthy, this is the best team we've fielded under Vermeil. We can beat anybody in the NFL right now.

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chiefsfan1963 · 12-01-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

Didnt the Pats in '01-'02 win it all with a 7-4 record at this time?

I don't know. Did they?

jidar · 12-01-2005, 11:12 PM

Hell yeah! We can do it!
Go Chiefs!

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 12-02-2005, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Have they turned the corner? Yes. They can now beat teams they should beat.

Are they good enough to beat 5 playoff contenders in a row? Nope.

This is my biggest fear. We have become the team we have all hoped for since spring. However it took us time to get there. We lost games to Philadelphia, and Buffalo that we should've won. We could've beaten San Diego too. But we didn't. So now we have damn near the toughest schedule in the NFL for the rest of the year, and we have to win a MINIMUM of 4 of 5. Denver, NY Giants, Dallas, Cincinatti, and San Diego. That looks shitty. I can't get my hopes up, and it breaks my heart. I feel that right now we could beat anyone in the league. Ya know, I felt that one other time this year. After we beat Oakland on the last play of the game. Who'd we play the next week? Oh yeah, Buffalo. I'm just along for the ride on this rollercoaster.

12-01-2005, 08:04 PM
chiefsfan1963 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2001 Casino cash: $10005060	Have Chiefs turned the corner? Curious what people think this team can accomplish from here on out. I feel a shift for the better for this team. Here is some things to consider: Players are the healthiest they've been all year, the competition going forward is the toughest any team will face in this league, but b/c several players will be retiring after this year it puts added motivation for the team to overachieve despite their schedule, all the sports media expect this team to implode under the pressure, the realization we are in control of our destiny, also I believe we have the chance to make history by being one of the first teams to win the super bowl after a 7-4 start. Some of you fact checkers can confirm this. all this leads me to believe that we can be the team under the radar that can get it done. Just throwing it out there.
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12-01-2005, 09:15 PM	#18
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2484127	I think as long as Roaf stays healthy and the Defense keeps doing what they are doing then we are going to be make a strong run at the right time. I call us 11-5 IF we beat Denver. 10-6 otherwise.
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