Why does Sammie Parker catch the ball and sit down? - Page 2

Herzig · 03:24 PM

Is he that afraid of contact? He seems to never run after the catch. Anyone else notice this?

Johnson&Johnson · 12-27-2005, 12:51 PM

Stop focusing on the WRs. A lot of times, a speedy wideout like Parker don't run after a catch is because of their route and sometimes it's because of the delivery of the football.

Most of the curl or hook routes does not allow a receiver much chance of running after the catch especially when your QB (Green) delivers the football awfully late or too low. When a WR has to turnaround and make a catch and the ball comes late, it looses all momentum for them to spin around and take off let alone hearing footsteps from a SS or FS coming to lay a big hit on your back.

When you see Dante's and Boe's crossing route in the middle, most times, they catch the ball in strides and they will continue to run (that's if when Green deliver the ball in front of them, not behind where the WR has to slow down or stop to wait for the ball)

Samie Parker has the ability to stretch D's which is what we've been missing since the days of Willie Davis. Just put him on a seam and stretch the Ds. With Parker's speed and LJ tough running, Defense in 2006 has to pick which to defend.

DBs can't play man and press on Parker's side. Safeties have to stay discipline and not come out to stop our run, unlike before where no defense respect our WR corps.

Defense can't bring 8 man to the box for that same reason. There's also the possibility of LJ running the draw if defense blitz.

all in all, the emergence of LJ and Parker will be a fruitful one in seasons to come. Now we just need a damn QB with accuracy, zip, composure, and youth. (Green has all but zip and youth)

So...who's our next QB? Green is 37 next year.

**BigRedChief** · 12-27-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

I have been noticing that Dante seems to do that a lot too. Maybe the coaches were tired of the fumbles during the run after the catch?

Remember the first couple of games Dante got jacked up two games in a row. He hasn't hit the hole hard since.

**ptlyon** · 12-27-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggRedChief

Remember the first couple of games Dante got jacked up two games in a row. He hasn't hit the hole hard since.

my condolances.

I guess.

sedated · 12-27-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggRedChief

He hasn't hit the hole hard since.

the ladies at The Drink beg to differ

Pitt Gorilla · 12-27-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I see alot more of this now than you use to. Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt are 2 that do it alot.

If the D can't hit you then the probablility of getting hurt or fumbling goes down alot.

Exactly. I can't believe that people have a problem with this. I'd rather him be healthy and keep the ball than be "tough."

InChiefsHeaven · 12-27-2005, 02:10 PM

Give Parker another season. He is fast as hell and his hands are improving. Just needs some more maturity and he will be a damn good reciever for us.

3rd year will be the magic number for Samie.

Ultra Peanut · 12-27-2005, 02:24 PM

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I don't want a tentative pussy receiver on the Chiefs

Yeah, it would suck to have a guy like Marvin Harrison or Torry Holt.

Also, I'd like to see LJ learn to duck out of bounds rather than invite unnecessary contact, if at all possible. There's no glory in getting an extra half-foot when you already have a first down, and the extra wear and tear incurred in the process can build up if you're not careful. I have doubts he'd ever be willing to do it, since he runs with rage, but it would be a good way of avoiding needless injuries.

ChiefsfaninPA · 12-27-2005, 02:27 PM

Has anybody thought that maybe he is tired. Running routes is tiring. And then combine the shock that he must be in that he actually caught it, his only reaction is to sit and savor a catch.

**Dunit35** · 12-27-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Herzig

Is he that afraid of contact? He seems to never run after the catch. Anyone else notice this?

When I was younger and played backyard ball, I used to catch the ball on my knees cause I didnt want to drop the ball. I wonder if he is doing the same thing? That way if it hit my knees I could still pull it in. Now I can catch anything thrown at me.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 12-27-2005, 03:50 PM

I didn't know Samie was so disliked by some. He gets 47 yrds a game as the third passing option (and 68 the last 5 games) . After early season struggles he hasn't dropped nearly as many passes as kennison. I've been pleased with his receiver instincts. 3 tds isn't great but he hasn't played the whole season. Plus he keeps Horn off the field.

Ultra Peanut · 12-27-2005, 03:51 PM

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I didn't know Samie was so disliked by some.

He's a Chiefs' draft pick. Of course he's disliked.

mike_b_284 · 12-27-2005, 04:06 PM

I don't know why you wouldn't like Horn. That guy plays with more heart than any Chief out there (except maybe LJ.) He is not the best by any means but makes up for it by busting his ass every chance he gets.

Mike in SW-MO · 12-27-2005, 04:13 PM

The only glaring time with Parker was that catch over the middle in the Giants game. Nobody within 10-15 yards of him and Green delivered the ball right in his middle.

Parker folds up around the ball and curled into a fetal position until one of the Giants walked up and tagged him. Looked ugly and he left some yards on the table.

But he got the first down.

mike_b_284 · 12-27-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO

The only glaring time with Parker was that catch over the middle in the Giants game. Nobody within 10-15 yards of him and Green delivered the ball right in his middle.

Parker folds up around the ball and curled into a fetal position until one of the Giants walked up and tagged him. Looked ugly and he left some yards on the table.

But he got the first down.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this the catch he made right after fumbling the ball after trying to run it?

**morphius** · 12-27-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_b_284

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this the catch he made right after fumbling the ball after trying to run it?

And he wanted to make sure that we got the first down, because it was 3rd down.

12-27-2005, 11:31 AM
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12-27-2005, 12:51 PM	#16
Johnson&Johnson Keep Calm and Chop On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gonzo's hometown Casino cash: $10004900	Stop focusing on the WRs. A lot of times, a speedy wideout like Parker don't run after a catch is because of their route and sometimes it's because of the delivery of the football. Most of the curl or hook routes does not allow a receiver much chance of running after the catch especially when your QB (Green) delivers the football awfully late or too low. When a WR has to turnaround and make a catch and the ball comes late, it looses all momentum for them to spin around and take off let alone hearing footsteps from a SS or FS coming to lay a big hit on your back. When you see Dante's and Boe's crossing route in the middle, most times, they catch the ball in strides and they will continue to run (that's if when Green deliver the ball in front of them, not behind where the WR has to slow down or stop to wait for the ball) Samie Parker has the ability to stretch D's which is what we've been missing since the days of Willie Davis. Just put him on a seam and stretch the Ds. With Parker's speed and LJ tough running, Defense in 2006 has to pick which to defend. DBs can't play man and press on Parker's side. Safeties have to stay discipline and not come out to stop our run, unlike before where no defense respect our WR corps. Defense can't bring 8 man to the box for that same reason. There's also the possibility of LJ running the draw if defense blitz. all in all, the emergence of LJ and Parker will be a fruitful one in seasons to come. Now we just need a damn QB with accuracy, zip, composure, and youth. (Green has all but zip and youth) So...who's our next QB? Green is 37 next year.
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12-27-2005, 02:10 PM	#21
InChiefsHeaven Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $3374937	Give Parker another season. He is fast as hell and his hands are improving. Just needs some more maturity and he will be a damn good reciever for us. 3rd year will be the magic number for Samie. __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
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12-27-2005, 02:27 PM	#23
ChiefsfaninPA "F_ck Family Fun Night" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $10005025	Has anybody thought that maybe he is tired. Running routes is tiring. And then combine the shock that he must be in that he actually caught it, his only reaction is to sit and savor a catch.
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12-27-2005, 03:50 PM	#25
Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	I didn't know Samie was so disliked by some. He gets 47 yrds a game as the third passing option (and 68 the last 5 games) . After early season struggles he hasn't dropped nearly as many passes as kennison. I've been pleased with his receiver instincts. 3 tds isn't great but he hasn't played the whole season. Plus he keeps Horn off the field.
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12-27-2005, 04:06 PM	#27
mike_b_284 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Casino cash: $10004900	I don't know why you wouldn't like Horn. That guy plays with more heart than any Chief out there (except maybe LJ.) He is not the best by any means but makes up for it by busting his ass every chance he gets.
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12-27-2005, 04:13 PM	#28
Mike in SW-MO Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $1694176	The only glaring time with Parker was that catch over the middle in the Giants game. Nobody within 10-15 yards of him and Green delivered the ball right in his middle. Parker folds up around the ball and curled into a fetal position until one of the Giants walked up and tagged him. Looked ugly and he left some yards on the table. But he got the first down.
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