Fav old-school hard rock outfit

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Can you edit the title so hard rock/heavy metal outfit, so that some of these bands can apply? (Preist, Sabbath, Maiden, Motorhead = heavy metal)

Trying to put every genre of rock music in a bubble will just kill it.
oops nevermind its already dead.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Trying to put every genre of rock music in a bubble will just kill it.
oops nevermind its already dead.

That's just it, though. Metal is not a subgenre of rock. Structurally and sonically, it's a seperate entity that takes in just as much from Jazz and Blues as it does Rock (and combines its influences with a lot of speed and distortion).

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

That's just it, though. Metal is not a subgenre of rock. Structurally and sonically, it's a seperate entity that takes in just as much from Jazz and Blues as it does Rock (and combines its influences with a lot of speed and distortion).

im gonna call it Rock & Roll.

Sub genres kill music- see punkrock & Metal.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Sub genres kill music- see punkrock & Metal.

I don't get what you mean by this.

[Reaper16]

Oh, and I apologize for sounding like an elitist a**face when it comes to metal. There are so many misconceptions about the genre, and I cannot resist myself when the opportunity to spread metal education arises.

[Reaper16]

And metal bands don't need to worry about media influencing them; almost the whole of the genre basically gets no coverage.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

And metal bands don't need to worry about media influencing them; almost the whole of the genre basically gets no coverage.

I would put metal in the same boat-its all metal and its all rock and roll.
Metal gets alot more press than hardcore punk.
I can only discuss metal up to the early 90s but IMO metalica is a perfect example everything after Justice blows imo and that had alot to do w/ Metalica being influenced from outside sources.(some would say everything after Cliff died sucked)

The point im trying to make is that when you put every band under your thumb it kills what made those bands org. in the first place.
Its human nature to do so but IMO it breeds alot of bullshit and bad music,because it gets away from what rock and roll is all about-

Thumbing your nose at everything.

To bad you live way up north,ive got about 600+ LPs and love to swap tunes.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

I would put metal in the same boat-its all metal and its all rock and roll.
Metal gets alot more press than hardcore punk.
I can only discuss metal up to the early 90s but IMO metalica is a perfect example everything after Justice blows imo and that had alot to do w/ Metalica being influenced from outside sources.(some would say everything after Cliff died sucked)

The point im trying to make is that when you put every band under your thumb it kills what made those bands org. in the first place.
Its human nature to do so but IMO it breeds alot of bullshit and bad music,because it gets away from what rock and roll is all about-

Thumbing your nose at everything.

To bad you live way up north,ive got about 600+ LPs and love to swap tunes.

I sort of share the opinion that everything after AJFA... is bad. I like a few songs off of Black Album, and I even like about half of Load. I support artists experimenting. I really think that Cliff dying damaged them so much. He was the guy behind what they were doing with their slightly progressive thrash metal in RtL and MoP, and certainly influenced AJFA greatly.

I don't really live in Maryville. I'm just here for college. I actually live in Excelsior Springs.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I actually live in Excelsior Springs.

were you at the cinci kc game?

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

were you at the cinci kc game?

No, but a guy I know from high school named John (blond hair) was at the game.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I sort of share the opinion that everything after AJFA... is bad. I like a few songs off of Black Album, and I even like about half of Load. I support artists experimenting. I really think that Cliff dying damaged them so much. He was the guy behind what they were doing with their slightly progressive thrash metal in RtL and MoP, and certainly influenced AJFA greatly.

I don't really live in Maryville. I'm just here for college. I actually live in Excelsior Springs.

I like MoP, but some of the stuff on it and RtL I can't stand - the beginning of the over the top, melody-oriented stuff. To me, AJFA was just the end of that progression into some kind of artsy, pop metal.

Personally, my favorite Metallica album was "Kill Em All". I think Cliff dying was a huge issue, but I also think that Mustaine splitting had something to do with it too. The first couple of albums he put out with Megadeth were far better than what Metallica was doing at the time.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I like MoP, but some of the stuff on it and RtL I can't stand - the beginning of the over the top, melody-oriented stuff. To me, AJFA was just the end of that progression into some kind of artsy, pop metal.

Personally, my favorite Metallica album was "Kill Em All". I think Cliff dying was a huge issue, but I also think that Mustaine splitting had something to do with it too. The first couple of albums he put out with Megadeth were far better than what Metallica was doing at the time.

The way I see it, the stuff Metallica was doing, especially on AJFA, were about as far from pop as you can get. I mean, "One" was an unlikey hit, especially given its length.

I love early Megadeth, too. (Listening to their first album, "Killing Is My Business... and Business is Good" right now, coincidentally.) "Rust In Peace" is one of my favorite albums ever, and it holds up right neck and neck w/ Metallica's best.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Personally, my favorite Metallica album was "Kill Em All". I think Cliff dying was a huge issue, but I also think that Mustaine splitting had something to do with it too. The first couple of albums he put out with Megadeth were far better than what Metallica was doing at the time.

No doubt on all counts.
everything upto Peace Sells was rockin.

[Reaper16]

AMAZING

[Simplex3]

I voted for the Scorpions. Yes, that was me. I'll own it.