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Old 04-07-2006, 09:19 AM  
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Help with peel and stick flooring
OK... quick question. My wife and I are putting down some peel and stick flooring in the bathroom (actually sister-in-law is doing it). We pulled up the old stuff (it was buckling, so we couldn't just lay the new stuff down on top), there's quite a bit of adhesive left on the floor... two questions, will that be a problem for the new tile and if so, do you know of anything to dissolve it that won't cause permanent damage to the floor and/or home?
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:35 AM   #16
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Just think....

a little more money, a little more time, and you could have rockboard base with some Tile.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:35 AM   #17
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MIght want to try underlayment.

Vinyl tile probably won't hide any bumps in the floor. Underlayment will help give it a smooth consistent finish.
I've thought of that, but the underlayment would be as big a pain in the ass as everything else -- so much to cut and everything... bottom line, gentlemen: I'm lazy, and want the easy way out.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:36 AM   #18
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??? No idea... still sticky, that's for sure. I would guess, since it's still tacky, that it's flexible. By lumps, did you mean big lumps, or just textured like it would be? There aren't any spots that are taller than others, it's all smooth on the floor, but it's still sticky... I kinda thought it would actually help the new tile stick. But I certainly could be wrong.
If it's all smooth, I don't think you need to worry about it in terms of making your new floor lumpy, which is what I thought your concern was.

As to whether it hamper the adhesion of the new, my guess is they probably make a primer for those self adhering tiles. You need to go ahead and put in what little time and effort priming reguires, so that you don't have tiles peeling up in two years. Go to one of the big box stores, or wherever you bought the stuff, and ask about something to prime the surface, and potential interaction with old adhesives.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:36 AM   #19
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Just think....

a little more money, a little more time, and you could have rockboard base with some Tile.
The time and money, I'm not willing to spend... I'm doing all this to make the house sell quicker.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:36 AM   #20
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Dammit... I didn't WANT to do that!!!
Be careful not to be too aggressive with the adhesive though. Depending on your subflooring, it could rip off some of the pressed board, assuming you have OSB subflooring, which most people have. Then if you rip up any of that then you have a problem with trying to repair that before laying the floor.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:37 AM   #21
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If it's all smooth, I don't think you need to worry about it in terms of making your new floor lumpy, which is what I thought your concern was.

As to whether it hamper the adhesion of the new, my guess is they probably make a primer for those self adhering tiles. You need to go ahead and put in what little time and effort priming reguires, so that you don't have tiles peeling up in two years. Go to one of the big box stores, or wherever you bought the stuff, and ask about something to prime the surface, and potential interaction with old adhesives.
I knew it needed primer -- I've already got that (from the last time I did another room)... I probably need to ask about the interaction with old adhesive though. Thank God there's a Lowe's in Warrensburg, now.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:38 AM   #23
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I've thought of that, but the underlayment would be as big a pain in the ass as everything else -- so much to cut and everything... bottom line, gentlemen: I'm lazy, and want the easy way out.
The easy way will give you tiles that are coming up next year. Those things aren't the greatest product in the world anyway, shortcuts will haunt you.

Just remember, a couple extra hours put into the project could translate to an extra five or ten years life on the floor. It's a pretty small investment of effort when you put in that perspective.
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making sure you understand what caused them to buckle in the first place is the important thing
Shitty laminate is what made it do it... and buckle isn't an appropriate description. Mainly, there were a couple of bubbles and a few of the tiles were coming up. Nothing shitty surprises me about that house. Nothing.



Speaking of which... anybody want a house? It's in great shape! New flooring in the bathroom!
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Wait a minute... I just noticed the emphasis on "I," meaning you, epitome. I'll be sending you a PM with my address. I need it done by tomorrow morning.

I'll give you some rep as soon as it's done. Thanks, and I guess I'll see you this afternoon!
Umm... by "*I*", I meant that I tend to be a perfectionist and that there are easier ways to do it but it would not be recommended by me.
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Just remember, a couple extra hours put into the project could translate to an extra five or ten years life on the floor. It's a pretty small investment of effort when you put in that perspective.....
... which I don't care about because I'm moving.
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Umm... by "*I*", I meant that I tend to be a perfectionist and that there are easier ways to do it but it would not be recommended by me.
Too late... you already volunteered.
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... which I don't care about because I'm moving.
Oh. Well if you're looking for advice on how to half ass it, I can't help. That's not the way I do things.

If you don't care, why are you asking at all. Just stick the things down.
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Too late... you already volunteered.
Alright, well I guess I will be over then. I will come over late tonight so it will be done in the morning. After I am done with it, it will probably look like I was never there, but you can trust me on it.

Remember to give me the rep though.
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Oh. Well if you're looking for advice on how to half ass it, I can't help. That's not the way I do things.

If you don't care, why are you asking at all. Just stick the things down.
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