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Archie Bunker · 05-09-2006, 07:48 AM

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The Miami Herald reports TE Kyle Turley, who took part in the Dolphins' minicamp last weekend, is expected to work out for the Kansas City Chiefs next week, according to his agent, Tom Condon.

chagrin · 05-09-2006, 08:27 AM

Amen, I was pumped up watching that; another classic night game!

htismaqe · 05-09-2006, 08:42 AM

If Turley is healthy, he represents the opportunity to get that something we have with Jason Dunn.

I don't think it's a bad idea at all...

Chiefnj · 05-09-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If Turley is healthy, he represents the opportunity to get that something we have with Jason Dunn.

I don't think it's a bad idea at all...

I can see putting Dunn at FB and Turley at TE in goal line situations, but I don't think KC has the room on its depth chart for a specialty player like that.

htismaqe · 05-09-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I can see putting Dunn at FB and Turley at TE in goal line situations, but I don't think KC has the room on its depth chart for a specialty player like that.

That's true. It just gives us an option is something happens to Dunn...he hasn't exactly been the healthiest. Of course, neither has Turley.

**Rain Man** · 05-09-2006, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chagrin

He did that because Donnie Henderson (I think it was he who did this) pulled Aaron Brooks head backwards and sideways and almost broke his neck doing it; Kyle took up for his QB. Many don't agree, but I did.

For some reason I was thinking it was Damian Robinson, the guy who later got caught with a gun in his car as he tried to enter the stadium.

I agree that Turley did the right thing. Whoever that Jets DB was, he was committing a felony against Brooks and it was right for Turley to intervene and go all caveman on him.

chagrin · 05-09-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

For some reason I was thinking it was Damian Robinson, the guy who later got caught with a gun in his car as he tried to enter the stadium.

I agree that Turley did the right thing. Whoever that Jets DB was, he was committing a felony against Brooks and it was right for Turley to intervene and go all caveman on him.

Yeah, that's right, it was Damien Robinson - he came over to NY from the Bucaneers. Thanks for clarifying.

Chiefnj · 05-09-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's true. It just gives us an option is something happens to Dunn...he hasn't exactly been the healthiest. Of course, neither has Turley.

At least Dunn is mentally healthy. Kyle has some issues. Too bad he doesn't want to add weight, he'd be an improvement at DT with just his anger issues alone.

**Rain Man** · 05-09-2006, 09:10 AM

Great article about the Turley incident.

I remember seeing it, and thinking that Turley should have received a medal from the team. The refs should've just let him go one on one with that thug Robinson. And Brooks should have paid his fine for him.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2001/1105/1274080.html

Saints fine Turley $25,000 for outburst

NEW ORLEANS -- It wasn't as bad as it could have been -- New Orleans Saints coach Jim Haslett originally thought about cutting tackle Kyle Turley or at least suspending him. But it was no slap on the wrist either.

Turley was fined $25,000 for conduct detrimental to the team during Sunday's game against the New York Jets.

Turley has also agreed to undergo counseling at the team's request.

Turley attacked Jets safety Damien Robinson when Robinson grabbed the face mask of Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks and twisted it. Turley ripped Robinson's helmet off and threw it downfield, then made an obscene gesture. His actions got him tossed out of the game. They also drew a 15-yard penalty that ended the Saints' final chance to tie or win the game. The Saints lost 16-9.

"The Saints do not condone such actions," general manager Randy Mueller said Tuesday. "We believe that the amount of the fine is appropriate for the severity of Kyle's conduct on the field. We understand that Kyle is a very emotional player, but it is clear that the type of actions he demonstrated last Sunday will not be tolerated."

Mueller said that Turley will not be suspended by the Saints and is expected to play Sunday against the San Francisco 49ers.

"`Unfortunately Kyle's actions cost us a chance to possibly win a game," Mueller said. "I would hope that the lesson learned here will bring our team together."

Turley also faces disciplinary action from the NFL.

Turley was composed, but not contrite, when he spoke to the media Monday.

"It was a very emotional outburst on my part that I need to be a little more mature about," Turley said. "But I cannot apologize for defending my quarterback and trying to, basically, from my point of view, save his life. The guy was seriously trying to break his neck."

Trailing 16-9, the Saints marched to the Jets' 6-yard line in the final minute of the game. On second-and-3, Brooks ran to the 5-yard line only to be stopped by Robinson, who grabbed Brooks' face mask.

"I figured I had him bent back when I heard Brooks scream," Robinson said. "Then I let him go." [Rain man note: Liar.]

Turley had a different take on the situation.

"I came up on the play and the guy started twisting Aaron's head back and he started screaming," Turley said. "I've never been placed in a situation like that before where I see my quarterback getting his head turned around like the exorcist."

Turley, who turned 26 in September, jumped into the pile, grabbing Robinson and eventually his helmet. He emerged without his own helmet, but still clutching Robinson's, which he flung downfield before making an obscene gesture. By that time the field was littered with players, officials and yellow flags.

"I felt like Turley was trying to break my neck," Robinson said. [Rain Man note: eye for an eye, you idiot.]

"They pulled my hair, the bunch of girls," Turley responded. "I got turf burn on my head. I've never had turf burn on my head. They were trying to get me when I was down."

There were offsetting penalties for personal fouls, but Turley, who was thrown out of the game, drew a second 15-yard penalty for throwing the helmet and making the obscene gesture. That put New Orleans on the 20-yard line and ended the scoring threat.

"Driving home (Sunday) night I was thinking about cutting him," Haslett said. "Last night, laying in bed, I thought about suspending him. I didn't see the whole incident on the field. Then I saw it on TV where Damien Robinson was trying to pull Aaron's head off. Then I talked to Aaron about it and Aaron said he thought he broke his neck. So I can understand why Kyle did it to that point."

The problem, Haslett said, is that Turley should have dragged Robinson off Brooks and stopped there. Throwing the helmet and making the gesture took it too far.

Turley called him a few minutes before 1 a.m. to apologize and explain what happened, Haslett said. He and Mueller spoke with Turley several times Monday.

When Haslett played in the 1970s and 80s, players were more rambunctious and emotions ruled the game to a greater extent, Haslett said.

"That's not in the game anymore," Haslett said. "You either conform to the rules, and have an understanding of what's going on out there, or get a new job. He needs to control his anger. He thought he was protecting the quarterback, but he went too far and it hurts the football team."

Haslett said Monday he believed the league should also reprimand Robinson.

Commissioner Paul Tagliabue was at the game, the first prime-time outing for the Saints since 1999.

"Kyle Turley, like most NFL players, doesn't give up until the fat lady has sung," said Tagliabue. "He's in there to win. He's an outstanding player that doesn't give up. But he's a little too exuberant."

htismaqe · 05-09-2006, 09:21 AM

It was Damien Robinson. IIRC, he had some disciplinary issues in college as well...he was a Hawkeye...

Fish · 05-09-2006, 09:34 AM

I love the guy's spirit, but it would scare me a little....

ct · 05-09-2006, 10:04 AM

He had surgery on his back a couple seasons ago, after repeated problems with a disc issue. While rehabbing, I recall he stated he would like to come back, but realized he could not take the pounding of OT anymore. He had ideas to try as DE or TE, even think somebody gave him a tryout as DE, and saw that he couldn't take the pounding there either.

I can see the potential upside. A fiery guy, former OT, converted to blocking TE. However, the injury risk is too much for me. I would pass.

Cormac · 05-09-2006, 11:17 AM

I think it would be great to just bring him in to work out. Maybe Krumrie would use him to do blocking drills against Sims and Siavii, and kick some ass while he's at it.

NJ Chief Fan · 05-09-2006, 02:50 PM

didnt he try coming back last season as a de?

tk13 · 05-09-2006, 02:57 PM

Keep doubting Ronnie Cruz.

Spicy McHaggis · 05-09-2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NJ Chief Fan

didnt he try coming back last season as a de?

Don't know if it was last season, but it when he was with the Rams I believe.

05-09-2006, 07:48 AM
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05-09-2006, 08:27 AM	#16
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05-09-2006, 08:42 AM	#17
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05-09-2006, 09:10 AM	#23
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2818491 VARSITY	Great article about the Turley incident. I remember seeing it, and thinking that Turley should have received a medal from the team. The refs should've just let him go one on one with that thug Robinson. And Brooks should have paid his fine for him. http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2001/1105/1274080.html Saints fine Turley $25,000 for outburst NEW ORLEANS -- It wasn't as bad as it could have been -- New Orleans Saints coach Jim Haslett originally thought about cutting tackle Kyle Turley or at least suspending him. But it was no slap on the wrist either. Turley was fined $25,000 for conduct detrimental to the team during Sunday's game against the New York Jets. Turley has also agreed to undergo counseling at the team's request. Turley attacked Jets safety Damien Robinson when Robinson grabbed the face mask of Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks and twisted it. Turley ripped Robinson's helmet off and threw it downfield, then made an obscene gesture. His actions got him tossed out of the game. They also drew a 15-yard penalty that ended the Saints' final chance to tie or win the game. The Saints lost 16-9. "The Saints do not condone such actions," general manager Randy Mueller said Tuesday. "We believe that the amount of the fine is appropriate for the severity of Kyle's conduct on the field. We understand that Kyle is a very emotional player, but it is clear that the type of actions he demonstrated last Sunday will not be tolerated." Mueller said that Turley will not be suspended by the Saints and is expected to play Sunday against the San Francisco 49ers. "`Unfortunately Kyle's actions cost us a chance to possibly win a game," Mueller said. "I would hope that the lesson learned here will bring our team together." Turley also faces disciplinary action from the NFL. Turley was composed, but not contrite, when he spoke to the media Monday. "It was a very emotional outburst on my part that I need to be a little more mature about," Turley said. "But I cannot apologize for defending my quarterback and trying to, basically, from my point of view, save his life. The guy was seriously trying to break his neck." Trailing 16-9, the Saints marched to the Jets' 6-yard line in the final minute of the game. On second-and-3, Brooks ran to the 5-yard line only to be stopped by Robinson, who grabbed Brooks' face mask. "I figured I had him bent back when I heard Brooks scream," Robinson said. "Then I let him go." [Rain man note: Liar.] Turley had a different take on the situation. "I came up on the play and the guy started twisting Aaron's head back and he started screaming," Turley said. "I've never been placed in a situation like that before where I see my quarterback getting his head turned around like the exorcist." Turley, who turned 26 in September, jumped into the pile, grabbing Robinson and eventually his helmet. He emerged without his own helmet, but still clutching Robinson's, which he flung downfield before making an obscene gesture. By that time the field was littered with players, officials and yellow flags. "I felt like Turley was trying to break my neck," Robinson said. [Rain Man note: eye for an eye, you idiot.] "They pulled my hair, the bunch of girls," Turley responded. "I got turf burn on my head. I've never had turf burn on my head. They were trying to get me when I was down." There were offsetting penalties for personal fouls, but Turley, who was thrown out of the game, drew a second 15-yard penalty for throwing the helmet and making the obscene gesture. That put New Orleans on the 20-yard line and ended the scoring threat. "Driving home (Sunday) night I was thinking about cutting him," Haslett said. "Last night, laying in bed, I thought about suspending him. I didn't see the whole incident on the field. Then I saw it on TV where Damien Robinson was trying to pull Aaron's head off. Then I talked to Aaron about it and Aaron said he thought he broke his neck. So I can understand why Kyle did it to that point." The problem, Haslett said, is that Turley should have dragged Robinson off Brooks and stopped there. Throwing the helmet and making the gesture took it too far. Turley called him a few minutes before 1 a.m. to apologize and explain what happened, Haslett said. He and Mueller spoke with Turley several times Monday. When Haslett played in the 1970s and 80s, players were more rambunctious and emotions ruled the game to a greater extent, Haslett said. "That's not in the game anymore," Haslett said. "You either conform to the rules, and have an understanding of what's going on out there, or get a new job. He needs to control his anger. He thought he was protecting the quarterback, but he went too far and it hurts the football team." Haslett said Monday he believed the league should also reprimand Robinson. Commissioner Paul Tagliabue was at the game, the first prime-time outing for the Saints since 1999. "Kyle Turley, like most NFL players, doesn't give up until the fat lady has sung," said Tagliabue. "He's in there to win. He's an outstanding player that doesn't give up. But he's a little too exuberant." __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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05-09-2006, 09:21 AM	#24
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	It was Damien Robinson. IIRC, he had some disciplinary issues in college as well...he was a Hawkeye...
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05-09-2006, 09:34 AM	#25
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ct u b illian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: DooDah Casino cash: $10009436	He had surgery on his back a couple seasons ago, after repeated problems with a disc issue. While rehabbing, I recall he stated he would like to come back, but realized he could not take the pounding of OT anymore. He had ideas to try as DE or TE, even think somebody gave him a tryout as DE, and saw that he couldn't take the pounding there either. I can see the potential upside. A fiery guy, former OT, converted to blocking TE. However, the injury risk is too much for me. I would pass.
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05-09-2006, 11:17 AM	#27
Cormac Haley sceptic.... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: waiting it out....... Casino cash: $10004900	I think it would be great to just bring him in to work out. Maybe Krumrie would use him to do blocking drills against Sims and Siavii, and kick some ass while he's at it.
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05-09-2006, 02:50 PM	#28
NJ Chief Fan DAMMIT CARL! Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	didnt he try coming back last season as a de?
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05-09-2006, 02:57 PM	#29
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