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Old 06-03-2006, 11:15 AM  
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Gonzalez wants to end his career in Kansas City

Chiefs | Gonzalez wants to end his career in Kansas City
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Rick Dean, writing for Morris News Service, reports Kansas City Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez has made it clear he wants to end his career in Kansas City, but he refused to discuss contract negotiations with the Chiefs. The team also wants to sign him to a long-term deal that will allow him to finish his career as a Chief. As is the case with all business deals, the financial terms must add up properly for both parties. Gonzalez's contract runs through the 2006 season. It is hardly a secret that Gonzalez spends little of his offseason in Kansas City. It's even less of a secret that the Chiefs wish he'd spend more here in offseason conditioning with his teammates. Gonzalez believes new offensive coordinator Mike Solari, the former offensive line coach, is a kindred spirit who will look for a tight end in scoring zone situations. "As soon as he got the job, I flew back here to meet with (Solari) and coach (Jon) Embree, my new position coach. He asked me straight-up what routes I thought worked best, and he said he'd get them called. We'll see what happens, but I have (no) doubt that he'll get me the ball."
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:23 PM   #16
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I think we have room under the cap for a reason, and not just Ty Law.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:25 PM   #17
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Gonzo's career started two years earlier than Gates. If Gonzo is productive until he is 35, Gates will have a hard time catching him.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:32 PM   #18
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Glad to hear we're finally gonna go with what works in the red zone. Just curious, where do u guys rank Tony in the pantheon of all-time Chiefs. I think he's at the top with DT, Lenny, and Shields. Lj may someday stand above them all but only time will tell on that...
When you talk about the pantheon of great Chiefs and you don't even mention the 3 greatest, Willie, Bobby, and Buck, your post loses a little credibility.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:34 PM   #19
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I think we have room under the cap for a reason, and not just Ty Law.
Excellent point!

I still think he is arguably the best TE in the league.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:40 PM   #20
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my bad milkman, I figured I was forgetting a few...
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:41 PM   #21
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my bad milkman, I figured I was forgetting a few...
I'll forgive you, this one time.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:54 PM   #22
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If Gates has the longevity of Gonzo, he'll make a run. The kid that the Niners drafted should have a storied career too.
You're right, Mr. Lurch, of course.

As regards the guy in SD (I refuse to articulate his name), he's already being called one of the best, if not the best TE in the league, by the ESPN clones. This is a deplorable travesty.

It will probably boil down to injuries as mentioned. If TG stays healthy, he will be able to accomplish remarkable things that will land him, not only in the hall, but in the pantheon of all time greats at their position.

The guy in SD has a shot, to be sure, but he has to stay healthy for a long, long time. Oh, and their offense has to produce. I kind of wonder about that part after this off season. Either way, it has to be said the TG redefined the TE position.

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Old 06-03-2006, 12:57 PM   #23
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Either way, it has to be said the TG redefined the TE position.

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That's homerism.

He is just cut from the same mold as guys like Ozzie Newsome and Kellen Winslow.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:04 PM   #24
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That's homerism.

He is just cut from the same mold as guys like Ozzie Newsome and Kellen Winslow.
Eh, Newsome, Winslow, and Sharpe were all excellent; but Gonzo's complete package....catches, red zone utility, and blocking ability would make him my pick, even if I wasn't a Chief's fan.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:10 PM   #25
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Eh, Newsome, Winslow, and Sharpe were all excellent; but Gonzo's complete package....catches, red zone utility, and blocking ability would make him my pick, even if I wasn't a Chief's fan.
Regardless of whether he's better, TG did not "redefine" the position.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:10 PM   #26
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That's homerism.

He is just cut from the same mold as guys like Ozzie Newsome and Kellen Winslow.
I never claimed I wasn't a homer, Mr. milkman. In fact, I believe I have always said I am. And darn proud of it. This whole fan objectivity thing is way overrated.

Anyway, here's my argument for my case. I watched both Newsome and Winslow for years. Neither one of those players had TG's skills as a receiver and route runner. TG has unbelievable hands, far better elevation than either of those guys and can work from a variety of offensive sets because he's much quicker and much more mobile. Blocking aside, the reason TG is closing in on the records isn't because he's like other TEs. It's because he isn't.

NFL scouts are looking for TG clones wherever they can find them because TG made the TE position a much more effective and flexible offensive weapon.

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Old 06-03-2006, 01:16 PM   #27
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I never claimed I wasn't a homer, Mr. milkman. In fact, I believe I have always said I am. And darn proud of it. This whole fan objectivity thing is way overrated.

Anyway, here's my argument for my case. I watched both Newsome and Winslow for years. Neither one of those players had TG's skills as a receiver and route runner. TG has unbelievable hands, far better elevation than either of those guys and can work from a variety of offensive sets because he's much quicker and much more mobile. Blocking aside, the reason TG is closing in on the records isn't because he's like other TEs. It's because he isn't.

NFL scouts are looking for TG clones wherever they can find them because TG made the TE position a much more effective and flexible offensive weapon.

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Winslow was very athletic and moved around, and for my money, both he and Newsome had more consistent hands.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:20 PM   #28
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Winslow was very athletic and moved around, and for my money, both he and Newsome had more consistent hands.
Winslow had no knees for much of his career, Mr. milkman. I'm not sure we're talking about the same Winslow, here.

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Old 06-03-2006, 01:20 PM   #29
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He talked about that with Soren Petro a day or two ago. Said he expects to play 5 more years.
I hope so. He'll shatter Sharpe's record...
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:23 PM   #30
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Winslow had no knees for much of his career, Mr. milkman. I'm not sure we're talking about the same Winslow, here.

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No, we are talking about the same Winslow.

He lined up in on the outside, in the slot, or in a traditional TE set, much like Tony.

The difference is that he didn't shift as much as Tony.
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