Law & Surtain: The Best CB Tandem in the League? - Page 2

**Mr. Kotter** · 04:09 PM

(Since it's all but "official". http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/15106482.htm )

Law & Surtain: The Best CB Tandem in the League?

That would have definitely been true 2-3 years ago.

Is it still true?

I don't know. If they are both healthy, and have "gas left in the tank" then I think they could be...

Even if they are healthy, and ready to play though, I'm not sure they will live up to their billing, UNLESS Sims and the DTs pick it up with more pressure from the inside. AND they get help from our safeties.

Otherwise they could become the two most overpaid "older" CBs in the league.

Here's hoping that Sims and Wesley (along with Edwards, Junior, and Pollard--not to mention Hali) can make a difference.

recxjake · 07-23-2006, 04:33 PM

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greenisgod10 · 07-23-2006, 04:33 PM

best cb tandem in the league

**banyon** · 07-23-2006, 04:33 PM

So, does anyone agree with my earlier post?

There was a question in this thread, no?

Wile_E_Coyote · 07-23-2006, 04:34 PM

I was on the OM earlier today

Adept Havelock · 07-23-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gcbroncos

I'd say that going into the season.....a Law & Surtain CB tandem should be considered the best in football....

but by midseason.....bailey & d-will will be considered the best....

Is that before or after Kennison torches Bailey.....again?

**Mr. Kotter** · 07-23-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

I was on the OM earlier today

Then TJ must have just taken it down--he knew his new server couldn't take the smack., LOL.....fugger.

Wile_E_Coyote · 07-23-2006, 04:36 PM

some dude named Banana Pants posted what rex posted

**Mr. Kotter** · 07-23-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

Ravens, C. McCalister/S. Rolle (very similar age)

Bucs, R. Barber/B. Kelly

Falcons- D. Hall/j. Williams (Best young corner tandem)

Personally, I think that Law & Surtain are a better tandem than any of those.

That's not to say they will perform better, because we do have some issues at DT and Safety which need to be addressed if they are to play up to their billing.

Chief Faithful · 07-23-2006, 04:38 PM

What has me pleased is Law and Surtain are the right type of corners for Edwards defensive philosophy. Thus, the personnel are starting to match the scheme.

KCfolife · 07-23-2006, 04:38 PM

with Law and Surtain on the outsides and guys like Wesly, Knight, and the Benard "Bone Crusher" Pollard in the middle just wrecking and plain smashing anything not wearing red we might have one helluva secondary...Chiefs...SB winners, is there any doubt

**banyon** · 07-23-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Personally, I think that Law & Surtain are a better tandem than any of those.

That's not to say they will perform better, because we do have some issues at DT and Safety which need to be addressed if they are to play up to their billing.

If healthy, I think McCallister and Rolle are both Pro Bowlers. That's a virtual wash, I think.

Kelly and Barber work very well together in Kiffin's scheme, but could probably not play as well for other teams.

Hall is an A++ CB for the next several years, arguably as good as Bailey. Williams needs to prove himself, but people don't doubt his potential. If he develops, next year they will top this list. (If you were building a franchise, this is the pair you'd want).

I think that it is arguable that we now have the best tandem with these other pairings, but having definitely a top-3 tandem is not small potatoes.

Trust me, I am partying down!!!

Halfcan · 07-23-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

some dude named Banana Pants posted what rex posted

So Nick Athan changed his name to Banana Pants?? Probably will get more respect that way.

GoHuge · 07-23-2006, 04:58 PM

I think they would be without a doubt before the whole "illegal contact" rule was as strictly enforced as it is now, but definitely still top three.

**Mr. Kotter** · 07-23-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

If healthy, I think McCallister and Rolle are both Pro Bowlers. That's a virtual wash, I think.

Kelly and Barber work very well together in Kiffin's scheme, but could probably not play as well for other teams.

Hall is an A++ CB for the next several years, arguably as good as Bailey. Williams needs to prove himself, but people don't doubt his potential. If he develops, next year they will top this list. (If you were building a franchise, this is the pair you'd want).

I think that it is arguable that we now have the best tandem with these other pairings, but having definitely a top-3 tandem is not small potatoes.

Trust me, I am partying down!!!

My take, given a choice of the four tandems....

Personally, I'd take the Atlanta youngsters. For now, and into the future. You are right. They will be very good for a long time.

As for the Ravens and Bucs, both are pro-bowl caliber pairs--no doubt about it. I do think both pairs though have a better "supporting cast" than either Surtain or Law have had, generally (sans Law's NE Superbowl days.)

I think the experience of Surtain and Law, together with the attitude they both bring to the field is precisely what you need at CB. And they both bring the wood better than those other pairs, IMO. McCallister and Rolle, in particular, are good cover guys....but I'd rather have Law and Surtain for blitzing and hard tackling. Same goes for Kelley and Barber, IMO.

Rgardless, it's SWEET to be having a discussion arguing over whether the Chief's CBs are 1st, or 3rd in the NFL.

GoHuge40 · 07-23-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I think they would be without a doubt before the whole "illegal contact" rule was as strictly enforced as it is now, but definitely still top three.

An excellent point.

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