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booger · 09-02-2006, 01:10 AM

Chiefs hold off on final cuts
Team facing decision on how many offensive-line prospects it will keep.
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The Chiefs initially planned to make their final roster cuts Friday, but they will go down to today’s NFL deadline to pare to the league-mandated 53 players.

Blame it, in part, on Ryan Lilja.

The Chiefs two years ago tried to sneak Lilja, a young offensive-line prospect from Shawnee Mission Northwest and Kansas State, onto their practice squad.

He never made it there. Indianapolis grabbed Lilja off waivers, and he’s now a starter for the Colts.

The Chiefs have since been skittish about exposing good prospects to other teams. The Chiefs were wrestling with exactly how many offensive-line prospects such as tackles Will Svitek and Jeremy Parquet and guards Tre Stallings and Rudy Niswanger they will keep.

“We’ve got some good young offensive linemen,” Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson said. “We’ll make a decision there of keeping nine, maybe 10.”

Otherwise, this year’s cuts aren’t overly taxing for the Chiefs.

“I don’t think there are any (particularly) difficult decisions,” Peterson said.

In another year, perhaps, halfback McKenzi Smith might have made the Chiefs think hard about keeping him. Smith had 51 yards and a touchdown in Thursday night’s 10-9 win over New Orleans and finished the preseason as the Chiefs’ leading rusher.

He has virtually no chance to stick. Larry Johnson is solid as the starter, the Chiefs traded a fourth-round draft pick for Michael Bennett, and they like Dee Brown because of his special-teams skills. The Chiefs don’t have roster space to carry four halfbacks.

Easy decisions materialized for the Chiefs at other positions for other reasons. None of the young cornerbacks proved to coach Herm Edwards that they were ready to play, so the Chiefs will keep veterans Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Lenny Walls and Benny Sapp.

They may also keep fifth-round draft pick Marcus Maxey, but only as a developmental prospect.

On the defensive line, Carlos Hall, John Browning and Junior Siavii were injured throughout the preseason. Their inability to play means the roster spots of tackles Ron Edwards, James Reed, Ryan Sims and Lional Dalton and ends Tamba Hali, Jared Allen, Eric Hicks and Jimmy Wilkerson are safe.

Edwards might have initially held out hope of keeping four quarterbacks, but Casey Printers probably played his way off the roster.

“It’s not tough because I think you can only realistically carry three (quarterbacks) on your 53,” Peterson said. “Now you can carry one on your developmental squad. That’s a possibility. That’s always a question for any young player you want to bring on developmental. If he’s claimed, you can’t. If he’s not, most of them want to stay right here because they know the system.”

Edwards said last week he believed the Chiefs would have as many as 15 new players by the time they trimmed to 53 players. After giving it further thought, Edwards upped the count this week.

“We’ve got some young players who are probably going to make this football team,” he said. “I said there were probably going to be 15 (new) players. I was wrong. There will probably be 20 new players on this team with free-agency and the draft choices we’ve acquired.

“That’s a lot of players, but, hey, that’s kind of good, too, because what we’re trying to do is obviously keep the best players. I said it was going to be a competition, and I think we had a very competitive camp.”

Even after making their cuts, the Chiefs will scan the list of roster moves from around the league and perhaps make another move or two of their own. They are looking for help at wide receiver and on the defensive line.

Then the Chiefs would have even more cuts to make, as the Colts did two years ago when they claimed Lilja.

“That’s the nature of the game,” Peterson said. “Everybody’s got the same problem.”

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milkman · 09-02-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelH

I'm not at all upset with twenty new players. The coaching staff changed on defense with no real improvement. Let's get some fresh blood in there. Not that I'm saying it was the players and not the scheme as with Robinson, but I think all of Vermeils projects need to be shown the door. He had no respect for the defense.

Why would you be upset?

The talent on defense has sucked for years.

The only reason you should be upset, is that it took so long to overhaul the talent, and the fact that even with all the changes, there's still more work to do.

booger · 09-02-2006, 08:48 AM

Easy decisions materialized for the Chiefs at other positions for other reasons. None of the young cornerbacks proved to coach Herm Edwards that they were ready to play, so the Chiefs will keep veterans Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Lenny Walls and Benny Sapp.

They may also keep fifth-round draft pick Marcus Maxey, but only as a developmental prospect.

Maybe we only keep 4 CB's for the time being with Page being able to play multiple positions in the nickel and Dime.

I guess Derrick Strait is on the bubble for the Jets.

milkman · 09-02-2006, 08:51 AM

The fact that the Chiefs might consider waiver wire additions, and may be looking at possible trade opportunities is a refreshing change from the last 5 years of the Dick era, when he wouldn't even look at possible late additions.

booger · 09-02-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The fact that the Chiefs might consider waiver wire additions, and may be looking at possible trade opportunities is a refreshing change from the last 5 years of the Dick era, when he wouldn't even look at possible late additions.

Amen.

Once camp started that was it. Someone goes to IR and we bring back someone we cut in camp because he knows the system and we know the players character. Hell even the practice squad was always guys from camp.

Quinton Caver was the only exception i can think of.

DV admitted that the pro personel scouts probably hated him because he didn't even listen to them.

Red Dawg · 09-02-2006, 10:18 AM

I would try and grab Rogers. Tall and fast he just needs a better program to get his focus back to football. Herm is the man for the job.

milkman · 09-02-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by booger

Amen.

Once camp started that was it. Someone goes to IR and we bring back someone we cut in camp because he knows the system and we know the players character. Hell even the practice squad was always guys from camp.

Quinton Caver was the only exception i can think of.

DV admitted that the pro personel scouts probably hated him because he didn't even listen to them.

They weren't the only ones that hated him.

Mecca · 09-02-2006, 10:24 AM

And people laughed when I said I thought the Chiefs would replace upwards of 40 players in Herms first 3 years.......halfway there it appears.

Frankie · 09-02-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Charles Rogers and a DE so they can cut Hicks please god........

A big NO to Rogers. We don't need another druggy on this team.

Keep f#@king doubting Jeff Webb!

milkman · 09-02-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

A big NO to Rogers. We don't need another druggy on this team.

Keep f#@king doubting Jeff Webb!

It's not Webb that people are doubting, it's McIntrye, Hannon and Curry.

None of those guys are NFL receivers.

Frankie · 09-02-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I hope they can somehow keep Derrick Ross...the guy looked great at training camp

I agree. But I think Ross is PS bound. And I'm reasonably sure he won't be snatched out of there.

ct · 09-02-2006, 12:01 PM

OT Chris Lewienski (sp?) was cut.

Frankie · 09-02-2006, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelH

Not that I'm saying it was the players and not the scheme as with Robinson, but I think all of Vermeils projects need to be shown the door.

Bye Kawika. MH doesn't want you here.

Mecca · 09-02-2006, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

A big NO to Rogers. We don't need another druggy on this team.

Keep f#@king doubting Jeff Webb!

"another druggie" so uh who's one right now? I do think it's kinda funny that people flip out that he tested positive for weed. I'm sure he knows he can't do it again or he'll put himself in a bad spot.

Doesn't over half the American population smoke weed?

Brock · 09-02-2006, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Doesn't over half the American population smoke weed?

Uh....not really.

Mecca · 09-02-2006, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Uh....not really.

I should have put in a smiley I was being sarcastic. But on a serious note I bet a good majority of Americans have smoked weed atleast once in thier lives.

09-02-2006, 01:10 AM
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $1188550	Chiefs hold off on final cuts: Teicher Chiefs hold off on final cuts Team facing decision on how many offensive-line prospects it will keep. By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The Chiefs initially planned to make their final roster cuts Friday, but they will go down to today’s NFL deadline to pare to the league-mandated 53 players. Blame it, in part, on Ryan Lilja. The Chiefs two years ago tried to sneak Lilja, a young offensive-line prospect from Shawnee Mission Northwest and Kansas State, onto their practice squad. He never made it there. Indianapolis grabbed Lilja off waivers, and he’s now a starter for the Colts. The Chiefs have since been skittish about exposing good prospects to other teams. The Chiefs were wrestling with exactly how many offensive-line prospects such as tackles Will Svitek and Jeremy Parquet and guards Tre Stallings and Rudy Niswanger they will keep. “We’ve got some good young offensive linemen,” Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson said. “We’ll make a decision there of keeping nine, maybe 10.” Otherwise, this year’s cuts aren’t overly taxing for the Chiefs. “I don’t think there are any (particularly) difficult decisions,” Peterson said. In another year, perhaps, halfback McKenzi Smith might have made the Chiefs think hard about keeping him. Smith had 51 yards and a touchdown in Thursday night’s 10-9 win over New Orleans and finished the preseason as the Chiefs’ leading rusher. He has virtually no chance to stick. Larry Johnson is solid as the starter, the Chiefs traded a fourth-round draft pick for Michael Bennett, and they like Dee Brown because of his special-teams skills. The Chiefs don’t have roster space to carry four halfbacks. Easy decisions materialized for the Chiefs at other positions for other reasons. None of the young cornerbacks proved to coach Herm Edwards that they were ready to play, so the Chiefs will keep veterans Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Lenny Walls and Benny Sapp. They may also keep fifth-round draft pick Marcus Maxey, but only as a developmental prospect. On the defensive line, Carlos Hall, John Browning and Junior Siavii were injured throughout the preseason. Their inability to play means the roster spots of tackles Ron Edwards, James Reed, Ryan Sims and Lional Dalton and ends Tamba Hali, Jared Allen, Eric Hicks and Jimmy Wilkerson are safe. Edwards might have initially held out hope of keeping four quarterbacks, but Casey Printers probably played his way off the roster. “It’s not tough because I think you can only realistically carry three (quarterbacks) on your 53,” Peterson said. “Now you can carry one on your developmental squad. That’s a possibility. That’s always a question for any young player you want to bring on developmental. If he’s claimed, you can’t. If he’s not, most of them want to stay right here because they know the system.” Edwards said last week he believed the Chiefs would have as many as 15 new players by the time they trimmed to 53 players. After giving it further thought, Edwards upped the count this week. “We’ve got some young players who are probably going to make this football team,” he said. “I said there were probably going to be 15 (new) players. I was wrong. There will probably be 20 new players on this team with free-agency and the draft choices we’ve acquired. “That’s a lot of players, but, hey, that’s kind of good, too, because what we’re trying to do is obviously keep the best players. I said it was going to be a competition, and I think we had a very competitive camp.” Even after making their cuts, the Chiefs will scan the list of roster moves from around the league and perhaps make another move or two of their own. They are looking for help at wide receiver and on the defensive line. Then the Chiefs would have even more cuts to make, as the Colts did two years ago when they claimed Lilja. “That’s the nature of the game,” Peterson said. “Everybody’s got the same problem.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/15421893.htm
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booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $1188550	Easy decisions materialized for the Chiefs at other positions for other reasons. None of the young cornerbacks proved to coach Herm Edwards that they were ready to play, so the Chiefs will keep veterans Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Lenny Walls and Benny Sapp. They may also keep fifth-round draft pick Marcus Maxey, but only as a developmental prospect. Maybe we only keep 4 CB's for the time being with Page being able to play multiple positions in the nickel and Dime. I guess Derrick Strait is on the bubble for the Jets. __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	The fact that the Chiefs might consider waiver wire additions, and may be looking at possible trade opportunities is a refreshing change from the last 5 years of the Dick era, when he wouldn't even look at possible late additions. __________________
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