Are We Heading Back To The 90's - Page 2

PinkFloyd · 10-18-2006, 04:56 PM

What's wrong with the Chiefs ? Why can't this organization spend the mola to get a "complete" team ? With our history, it's either no offense and all defense or no defense and all offense... The 90's saw the top rated defense and an offense that was capable of scoring just enough points to squeak by --- or getting their asses kicked...

Now today --- the defense is improving and the offense is starting to stall... With Trent Green coming back --- whenever that is --- will that improve the offense ?? Do we really miss Holmes running the ball ?? Is LJ having the sophomore jinx ?? Or is the offense taking a dive due to Saunders departing ??

I'm 41 years old, and I'm pretty convinced that I will never see another Chiefs team win the Super Bowl... If they do, I'll probably be in a nursing home with "old-timers" and not even have a fricking clue that they won !!

So people -- other than using Herm as an excuse --- what's the problem ?? Oh; and you can't include Carl "It's Allllllll My Money" Peterson...

With not being able to use those two reason's, this might not have much a discussion...

CoMoChief · 10-18-2006, 06:27 PM

Carl needs to go, end of story. This team is bombarded with FA screw ups and draft busts.

For every Will Shields, Priest Holmes, TG, LJ, there is a Ryan Sims, Jr Siavii, Trezelle Jenkins, Bam Morris, Greg Hill, Todd Blackledge, and the list of **** ups goes on and on.

He's the longest tenured GM in all of pro sports. To have been the GM for a team that has no championships (or even a single SB appearance) in 18 yrs is rediculous. Not to mention the Chiefs havent been in the playoffs but only 2 times in the last decade. Carl needs to go and Lamar obviously believes in the good ol boy system and won't fire him because he still fills the seats and until he doesnt he will be the GM on his terms.

I think its reeruned that so many on here whine bitch and moan about ESPN and other sporting networks not giving the Chiefs any props. Well shit we havent done anything to deserve any recognition. 2 playoff appearances in a decade is nothing to be proud of. The Chiefs are extremely a mediocre football team. They do enough to not suck but do good enough to give fans enough hope that they will pay out the ass for season tickets constantly season after season.

milkman · 10-18-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

The way I understood it, Marty had a long running fued with Carl over control of personnel decisions. It was a power struggle Marty lost so he left.

I'm familiar with that speculation, and I don't doubt it.

We do know that Carl doesn't always accede to his coach's choice, and I would imagine there were a couple of instances that Marty felt strongly enough that he wanted to be the guy with the final choice.

**HemiEd** · 10-18-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Carl needs to go.....For every Will Shields, Priest Holmes, TG, LJ, there is a Ryan Sims, Jr Siavii, Trezelle Jenkins, Bam Morris, Greg Hill, Todd Blackledge, and the list of **** ups goes on and on.

PinkFloyd · 10-18-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Carl needs to go, end of story. This team is bombarded with FA screw ups and draft busts.

For every Will Shields, Priest Holmes, TG, LJ, there is a Ryan Sims, Jr Siavii, Trezelle Jenkins, Bam Morris, Greg Hill, Todd Blackledge, and the list of **** ups goes on and on.

He's the longest tenured GM in all of pro sports. To have been the GM for a team that has no championships (or even a single SB appearance) in 18 yrs is rediculous. Not to mention the Chiefs havent been in the playoffs but only 2 times in the last decade. Carl needs to go and Lamar obviously believes in the good ol boy system and won't fire him because he still fills the seats and until he doesnt he will be the GM on his terms.

I think its reeruned that so many on here whine bitch and moan about ESPN and other sporting networks not giving the Chiefs any props. Well shit we havent done anything to deserve any recognition. 2 playoff appearances in a decade is nothing to be proud of. The Chiefs are extremely a mediocre football team. They do enough to not suck but do good enough to give fans enough hope that they will pay out the ass for season tickets constantly season after season.

nomad · 10-18-2006, 07:48 PM

The reason this org is where it is:

1. Clearly this team has not drafted well in decades.
2. Forfeit of high draft picks due to malfeasance (Vermeil hiring).
3. Carls hiring practices and his coaching firing practices.
4. Absentee ownership.

This organization doesn't deserve the fans it has....

Thig Lyfe · 10-18-2006, 07:49 PM

Yep.

stevieray · 10-18-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nomad

4. Absentee ownership.

I feel this is the biggest mitigating factor, but only from a human nature standpoint.

Ultra Peanut · 10-18-2006, 08:40 PM

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Halfcan · 10-18-2006, 10:11 PM

90's I hope not, the music sucked ballz.

**007** · 10-18-2006, 10:15 PM

Look at it this way, by the time we finally get to a Superbowl, we at least will be fan favorites by default. Everybody seems to love the teams that rarely ever get there.

kcxiv · 10-18-2006, 10:32 PM

Someone on a different message board brought up some stats, and the only worse organizations then us were, The Lions, Cardinals, and ths Saints, yep, we are in that category? shitty huh?

Halfcan · 10-18-2006, 10:33 PM

We need a new GM-that is where it starts. Too many bad FA picks, poor coaches, bust draft picks-Adios fuckhead!

**007** · 10-18-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

We need a new GM-that is where it starts. Too many bad FA picks, poor coaches, bust draft picks-Adios fuckhead!

Well, we could have Matt Millen.

kcxiv · 10-18-2006, 10:38 PM

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Since the Chiefs won the Super Bowl in Jan. 1970 they have had a total of 13 playoff game appearances and 3 playoff wins. We are near the bottom in both categories. Teams like Tampa who in 1976 went 0-14 has had more playoff wins, The Browns and Bungles have had more playoff wins. Expansion teams like Carolina and Jacksonville have had more playoff wins. Most teams have gotten into at least 1 Super Bowl since we were last there. The team we beat in Super bowl IV, the Vikings, managed to recover and make an additional 38 playoff game appearances. What the hell happened?

Folks, we are only slightly above the Saints, Lions, Cardinals and Texans in playoff futility (Can we throw out the texans who haven't been in the league that long?). Is it little wonder that some folks on the board are getting frustrated already after 5 games? It just feels like more of the same old stuff. I would love to bury my head in the sand and say we have a shot at the Super Bowl every year. I stopped doing that after about 30 seasons had passed. I love the Chiefs. They are my team and I support them no matter what. But I have to come to grips with the fact we are not an elite program and have not been for some time. Far from it...we are right there with the Saints, Lions and Cardinals of the NFL and it stinks..

Thats a post from Dhitter over at coalition,. when i read that, i was like wow, I didnt think the Chiefs organization was that bad.

**007** · 10-18-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

Thats a post from Dhitter over at coalition,. when i read that, i was like wow, I didnt think the Chiefs organization was that bad.

That was pretty telling. WOW!

We really do suck.

10-18-2006, 04:56 PM
PinkFloyd I've Become - Comfortably Numb Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Cameron, Missouri Casino cash: $10003795	Are We Heading Back To The 90's What's wrong with the Chiefs ? Why can't this organization spend the mola to get a "complete" team ? With our history, it's either no offense and all defense or no defense and all offense... The 90's saw the top rated defense and an offense that was capable of scoring just enough points to squeak by --- or getting their asses kicked... Now today --- the defense is improving and the offense is starting to stall... With Trent Green coming back --- whenever that is --- will that improve the offense ?? Do we really miss Holmes running the ball ?? Is LJ having the sophomore jinx ?? Or is the offense taking a dive due to Saunders departing ?? I'm 41 years old, and I'm pretty convinced that I will never see another Chiefs team win the Super Bowl... If they do, I'll probably be in a nursing home with "old-timers" and not even have a fricking clue that they won !! So people -- other than using Herm as an excuse --- what's the problem ?? Oh; and you can't include Carl "It's Allllllll My Money" Peterson... With not being able to use those two reason's, this might not have much a discussion...
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10-18-2006, 06:27 PM	#16
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	Carl needs to go, end of story. This team is bombarded with FA screw ups and draft busts. For every Will Shields, Priest Holmes, TG, LJ, there is a Ryan Sims, Jr Siavii, Trezelle Jenkins, Bam Morris, Greg Hill, Todd Blackledge, and the list of **** ups goes on and on. He's the longest tenured GM in all of pro sports. To have been the GM for a team that has no championships (or even a single SB appearance) in 18 yrs is rediculous. Not to mention the Chiefs havent been in the playoffs but only 2 times in the last decade. Carl needs to go and Lamar obviously believes in the good ol boy system and won't fire him because he still fills the seats and until he doesnt he will be the GM on his terms. I think its reeruned that so many on here whine bitch and moan about ESPN and other sporting networks not giving the Chiefs any props. Well shit we havent done anything to deserve any recognition. 2 playoff appearances in a decade is nothing to be proud of. The Chiefs are extremely a mediocre football team. They do enough to not suck but do good enough to give fans enough hope that they will pay out the ass for season tickets constantly season after season.
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10-18-2006, 07:48 PM	#20
nomad Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OC, CAL. Casino cash: $10004900	The reason this org is where it is: 1. Clearly this team has not drafted well in decades. 2. Forfeit of high draft picks due to malfeasance (Vermeil hiring). 3. Carls hiring practices and his coaching firing practices. 4. Absentee ownership. This organization doesn't deserve the fans it has....
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kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	Someone on a different message board brought up some stats, and the only worse organizations then us were, The Lions, Cardinals, and ths Saints, yep, we are in that category? shitty huh?
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10-18-2006, 10:33 PM	#27
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	We need a new GM-that is where it starts. Too many bad FA picks, poor coaches, bust draft picks-Adios fuckhead!
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