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Old 12-19-2006, 03:59 AM  
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ESPN has already forgotten about Lamar
Just finished watching their year in review.

They did a piece on remembering all the people who passed this year.. Puckett, Heyworth, Tiger Wood's dad. BUT NO LAMAR!

WTF?!?!?! Tiger Wood's dad deserves a mention but Lamar doesnt?!?!?

ESPN can lick my sack. I'll leave it unwashed for the next few weeks jus for when they lick it.

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Old 12-19-2006, 12:53 PM   #16
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You know, I never thought about it until now, but I wonder if there's still so die-hard NFL blue bloods that resent what Lamar did?
Possibly, I hadn't considered that either, Mr. htismaqe. But it is possible.

I've always subscribed to the theory that the small- to mid-market teams don't get attention because the audience size doesn't warrant it. But, in Lamar's case, one would think that that excuse wouldn't apply.

I can understand why the media would ignore the Chiefs, but I don't understand why they would choose to ignore Lamar's passing to this extent. In that sense, it does raise questions.

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Old 12-19-2006, 12:56 PM   #17
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:58 PM   #18
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Wellington Mara.
He was from the NFL.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:02 PM   #19
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He was from the NFL.
Yeah, I brought that up.
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Wellington Mara.
I believe that many people said they were going to murder the next person to say that name.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:27 PM   #23
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That's him. Thanks, Mr. htismaqe. He seemed like a nice guy and all, but his accomplishments paled in comparison to Lamar's.

It's as if Mr. mac58 is heading up the programming division at ESPN.

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I'm sorry FAX but this is way, way off base. Wellington Mara made the NFL what it is today by instituting the practice that sets it apart from all other pro sports: revenue sharing. Read his bio, I think once you see the facts you will agree Mr. Mara was a Giant in his field. This in no way detracts from Lamar Hunt's legacy.

Giants owner Wellington Mara dies at age 89
By Dave Goldberg, AP Football Writer
NEW YORK — Every NFL fan owes a huge debt to Wellington Mara, who died Tuesday at 89. So does every owner, executive and player. Mara, who joined the New York Giants as a ballboy the day his father purchased the team 80 years ago and became co-owner as a teenager, was the face of the franchise for more than a half century.

But he also was the patriarch of the NFL, a man who was willing for more than 40 years to split the millions in television revenues he could have made in the nation's largest market with the Green Bays and Pittsburghs of the league.
It put the NFL at the top of America's sports hierarchy.

"He shaped nearly every rule and philosophy we have in our league today," said Ernie Accorsi, the Giants general manager. "Most of all, he was the moral conscience of the National Football League. He now joins the pantheon of incredible men who made this league what it has become."

Said commissioner Paul Tagliabue: "Wellington Mara represented the heart and soul of the National Football League. He was a man of deep conviction who stood as a beacon of integrity. When Well Mara stood to speak at a league meeting, the room would become silent with anticipation because all of us knew we were going to hear profound insights born of eight decades of league experience."

The last of the NFL's founding generation, Mara, elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1997, died of cancer at his home in Rye, the team said.

One of Mara's greatest contributions came in the early 1960s when he and brother Jack agreed to share television revenue on a league wide basis soon after Pete Rozelle became commissioner. That deal allowed the NFL to thrive and remains in place today.

"Wellington Mara was a true pioneer who understood what it took to make the National Football League great," said Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players Association. "History will show that his vision, integrity and willingness to share with small market clubs paved the way for economic success."

In 1989, Mara and group of older owners wanted Rozelle's successor to be Jim Finks, then the New Orleans general manager, rather than Tagliabue, then a league lawyer. Mara thought the league should be run by a football man.

But Mara and several other "old-guard" owners finally agreed to break a stalemate of four months by throwing their votes to Tagliabue. Mara became one of the new commissioner's staunchest supporters, a man Tagliabue often leaned on for advice.

Mara became a Giants' ballboy at age 9 on Oct. 18, 1925 after his father, Timothy J. Mara, bought the team. He stayed fully involved in New York's operation for almost 80 years, except for the three years he served in the Navy during World War II. Until he became ill last spring, he attended most practices and every game.

In 1930, at 14, his father made him co-owner with older brother Jack.

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Old 12-19-2006, 05:34 PM   #24
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I'm sorry FAX but this is way, way off base. Wellington Mara made the NFL what it is today by instituting the practice that sets it apart from all other pro sports: revenue sharing. Read his bio, I think once you see the facts you will agree Mr. Mara was a Giant in his field. This in no way detracts from Lamar Hunt's legacy.
Big deal IMHO. Lamar shared revenue when he created the AFL, he even gave his OWN money to other teams so they wouldn't go under. Hell he even gave the Raiders one of our QB's because they didn't have one. That would never happen in this day and age.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:35 PM   #25
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I'm sorry FAX but this is way, way off base. Wellington Mara made the NFL what it is today by instituting the practice that sets it apart from all other pro sports: revenue sharing. Read his bio, I think once you see the facts you will agree Mr. Mara was a Giant in his field. This in no way detracts from Lamar Hunt's legacy.
Thanks for posting, Mr. vailpass. I appreciate the information and the knowledge gained.

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Possibly, I hadn't considered that either, Mr. htismaqe. But it is possible.

I've always subscribed to the theory that the small- to mid-market teams don't get attention because the audience size doesn't warrant it. But, in Lamar's case, one would think that that excuse wouldn't apply.

I can understand why the media would ignore the Chiefs, but I don't understand why they would choose to ignore Lamar's passing to this extent. In that sense, it does raise questions.

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You've also got to remember that Lamar and his family are quite low key and Lamar never really wanted the focus on him so I am sure a lot of this has to do with that and his family. Lamar would have wanted the focus to remain on the games. A lot of these media outlets depend on the family and the team putting out statements and and tributes and such and they pick them up. Otherwise, what more can you do other than the tributes you've already aired? The family in fact may have encouraged the outlets not to focus too much on it...
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Big deal IMHO. Lamar shared revenue when he created the AFL, he even gave his OWN money to other teams so they wouldn't go under. Hell he even gave the Raiders one of our QB's because they didn't have one. That would never happen in this day and age.
I think if you were keeping score, Lamar's accomplishments would outweigh Mara's, Mr. dirk digler. But, that level of homerism is beyond even my utterly shameless reach.

Still, the fact is they were both good men and important to the evolution of the NFL. It doesn't excuse or explain why Mara get's more attention than Lamar, though.

It's a puzzler.

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Old 12-19-2006, 05:48 PM   #28
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I think if you were keeping score, Lamar's accomplishments would outweigh Mara's, Mr. dirk digler. But, that level of homerism is beyond even my utterly shameless reach.

Still, the fact is they were both good men and important to the evolution of the NFL. It doesn't excuse or explain why Mara get's more attention than Lamar, though.

It's a puzzler.

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I am not being a homer, it is the truth. The only reason Mara got all the hype is because he ran the New York Football Giants.
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I am not being a homer, it is the truth. The only reason Mara got all the hype is because he ran the New York Football Giants.
I wasn't suggesting you were a homer, Mr. dirk digler. Rather, I was stating that I am. And darn proud of it, too.

I think you're right about the New York franchise, though. As I said earlier, I can understand why the Chiefs garner little attention - we suck. But, Lamar's another story. He deserves better.

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Big deal IMHO. Lamar shared revenue when he created the AFL, he even gave his OWN money to other teams so they wouldn't go under. Hell he even gave the Raiders one of our QB's because they didn't have one. That would never happen in this day and age.
Mara instituted the policy of revenue sharing when he, as a NY owner, was in a position to benefit most from preventing it. Mara could easily have been the NFL Steinbrenner but cared more about the game.
Hunt accomplished some great things but revenue sharing was not among them.

Read Mara's bio, he became an owner when he was 14 years old and built the NFL.
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