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Old 03-28-2007, 09:40 AM   #1
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What happen other the him asking for a trade way back? That out of the way Jared Allen is such a big part of our D I'm torn I no there are some good DE's in the draft but banking on getting another Hali is a big risk. I know I know keeping him is a risk to with his off the field stuff that is why I'm torn.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:38 AM   #2
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:39 AM   #3
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Contract stuff? Pff
Please. Welcome to the NFL.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:40 AM   #4
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I don't blame him for doing this. It's all about using whatever leverage they have to get the best deal they can.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:42 AM   #5
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I don't blame him for doing this. It's all about using whatever leverage they have to get the best deal they can.
He probably should have thought about how being a drunk buffoon was going to affect his contract. Personally, I doubt anyone cares whether he shows up for offseason workouts or not.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:43 AM   #6
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I don't blame him for doing this. It's all about using whatever leverage they have to get the best deal they can.
He's a convicted criminal. He has no leverage.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:52 AM   #7
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He's a convicted criminal. He has no leverage.
Are you talking about the DUI or is there something that makes him an actual criminal? Technically I know what you are saying is true, but realistically the word criminal implies worse.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:54 AM   #8
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Are you talking about the DUI or is there something that makes him an actual criminal? Technically I know what you are saying is true, but realistically the word criminal implies worse.
In the eyes of the NFL, he's a convicted criminal, DUI or not.

He's going to get 4 games under the NFL's criminal conduct policy, regardless of whether or not he was enrolled in the substance abuse program. It's very similar to what happened with Warfield - he wasn't suspended for the alcohol, he was suspended for the conviction.

One more screw-up and he misses a season.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:55 AM   #9
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Are you talking about the DUI or is there something that makes him an actual criminal? Technically I know what you are saying is true, but realistically the word criminal implies worse.
It's the latest in a string of DUIs. At some point it becomes felony.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:56 AM   #10
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It's the latest in a string of DUIs. At some point it becomes felony.
I thought it was only two, my apologies.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:02 AM   #11
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It's the latest in a string of DUIs. At some point it becomes felony.
most states it's the third conviction that = felony.

Allen had one that he was on a probation / education program to have it down graded to something else, but then he got his second arrest so the judge gave him both convictions.

next arrest could be his third conviction, but sometimes that third arrest, depending on how much time goes by, can be another probation scenerio. To any event he's one conviction (not neccesarily one arrest) from being a felony.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:48 AM   #12
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I don't blame him for doing this. It's all about using whatever leverage they have to get the best deal they can.
That's like saying you wouldn't blame Ryan Sims for going into Carl's office and demanding more money
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:48 AM   #13
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That's like saying you wouldn't blame Ryan Sims for going into Carl's office and demanding more money

Sims couldn't make it past the candy bowl on the receptionist desk.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:49 AM   #14
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Sims couldn't make it past the candy bowl on the receptionist desk.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:53 AM   #15
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Sims couldn't make it past the candy bowl on the receptionist desk.
Why would he want to? If he eats 72 oz. in one sitting he gets a t-shirt.
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