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Old 04-21-2007, 03:13 PM  
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Don’t Believe The LJ Hype
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Nothing gets Chiefs fans worked up like trade rumors surrounding running back Larry Johnson.

If I had a dime for every time someone has called Johnson a “malcontent” or a “locker room cancer,” or stated that he hates Kansas City and wants to play on the east coast, I’d probably have amassed riches approaching the value of his upcoming contract.

So when Warpaint Illustrated’s Nick Athan reported on Friday that the Chiefs are seriously shopping Johnson around the league, the resulting fallout among fans was both predictable and discouraging.

Why are people so quick to cast aside the finest player this franchise has seen since Derrick Thomas? It’s almost like Chiefs fans don’t feel they’re entitled to a player with Johnson’s talent.

Fortunately, I think there’s very little chance of LJ being shipped out of town anytime soon. The whole idea that General Manager Carl Peterson would dump one of his greatest draft picks in the prime of his career is completely ridiculous.

Let’s examine the facts.

Is Johnson a malcontent? No. As Athan reported Friday, Johnson is working out with the team, has not threatened a holdout and hasn’t demanded a trade (unlike some other players).

Why is it seemingly impossible for Johnson to shake this “cancer” label? Some people simply can’t forgive or forget the past. LJ’s 2003 domestic incident may end up haunting his entire career – even if he continues to keep his nose clean, as he’s done since his rookie season.

Compared to a legitimate cancer like Baltimore’s Willis McGahee, Johnson is an angel. Bills fans, almost across the board, despise their former running back for his behavior off the field, his lack of effort on the field and the way he shunned the city of Buffalo.

So far, Johnson hasn’t come close to demonstrating any of these character flaws. He hasn’t even disparaged Kansas City restaurants (I know you’re reading, Steve).

The Chiefs aren’t going to trade Johnson. As I pointed out before, he’s one of Peterson’s best draft picks. If you look at Carl’s history with players like Thomas and Tony Gonzalez, he holds on to his biggest hits.

It took a coaching decision to get Donnie Edwards out of town, and Carl snapped him up via free agency as soon as he was available this offseason. I realize that Neil Smith wasn’t re-signed in 1997 and left for Denver, but that was a money issue. The Chiefs have no other big superstar at the moment competing for money with Johnson, as Smith was with Thomas. Furthermore, the Chiefs’ cap situation is in great shape, especially after the bargain contracts they wisely handed out in free agency this offseason.

Now look at the Priest Holmes contract situation following 2002. Priest was a 30-year old running back coming off a major injury. But once he proved he was healthy, Carl gave him a big contract with a $10 million signing bonus.

Johnson has no such hang-ups. He’s in his prime, has had no injuries, and after carrying the load as the starter in 2006, has absolutely nothing to prove. My gut feeling says Carl will pay up.

LJ is KC’s meal ticket. Without him, they’ll be lucky to finish 6-10 next season. The same couldn’t be said of Holmes and the Chiefs in 2003, when the offensive line was so dominant it allowed Derrick Blaylock to flourish and Trent Green to post Pro Bowl numbers.

When you really examine the situation, there’s just not a whole lot of good reasons to ship Johnson out of Kansas City.

So what’s really going on? This is all one big smoke screen for the draft. The Chiefs are doing an excellent job of concealing what players they’re interested in, and with an attention-grabbing story circulating - like the possibility of trading their star running back – their true intentions are even better masked.

Of course, this could be about money. Athan reported that Johnson possibly desires a contract close to the value of the eight-year, $60 million deal Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson signed in 2004.

You can’t make a serious argument that Johnson doesn’t deserve a comparable contract. The Chiefs are being cheap if they don’t give him a deal that makes him the highest-paid player in team history.

Guess what? The Chiefs aren’t cheap and, despite their hang-ups, the fans will forget about all this nonsense when Johnson scores his first touchdown of 2007 – in red and gold.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:27 PM   #16
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Yea considering RB has become the most expendable position in the league.......
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:29 PM   #17
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You're saying LJ isn't worth big money because we don't have an offensive line? Shit, why did we bother to sign Tony Gonzalez then?

LJ is worth every penny of LT'S contract considering what he did last year with our pathetic O-line.
Last time I checked, Mr. GoChiefs, the TE and RB positions have different roles on the team. I'm not fussing. I actually understand your point of view. I really do but, if we're going to run him up the center's ass 416 more times next year, we can find a less expensive RB who can do the same thing.

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Old 04-21-2007, 03:29 PM   #18
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Yea considering RB has become the most expendable position in the league.......
Ask the Chargers if they think LT is expendable.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:31 PM   #19
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Ask the Chargers if they think LT is expendable.
That's an elite RB, that is HOF caliber and is extremely versatile.

Let's ask the Colts if they think RB is expendable, or the Bills. Fact is RB is the most talent rich position in all of football, they are there in the draft every year. It's become an expendable position just due to how talent rich it is.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:31 PM   #20
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Is LJ a strong receiving threat? If your answer is no... then, he's not worth the LT contract and he's not better than Priest.

Will he eventually sign for more money than any other RB? Quite possibly, that happens all the time as the caps increase.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:33 PM   #21
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You're saying LJ isn't worth big money because we don't have an offensive line? Shit, why did we bother to sign Tony Gonzalez then?

LJ is worth every penny of LT'S contract considering what he did last year with our pathetic O-line.
It's a decent article, GC, but right now, you're wrong. LJ is not on the same level of LT. LJ is the second best RB out there. AS a pure runner LJ is better. But when you consider blocking, running in space, and catching the ball LT is significantly better.
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I could argue Steven Jackson is better......if you wanna be dead serious about it.
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I'm not going to debate LJ's versatility on THIS BB, but I believe he showed improvement in those areas last year and will continue to do so. I don't believe there's the ENORMOUS gap that some of you are implying between the two running backs.
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Steven Jackson is a better "all around" RB than LJ in my opinion and no I'm not just referring to fantasy football.

LJ has been a phenom, no doubt... but he had 80 more carries in 2006 than in 2005 with only 39 more rushing yards. LJ's receiving skills are average.

I'm not hatin' on the guy.. just saying that he is NOT the midwest's version of LT.
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Steven Jackson caught 90 balls last year......
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I'm not going to debate LJ's versatility on THIS BB, but I believe he showed improvement in those areas last year and will continue to do so. I don't believe there's the ENORMOUS gap that some of you are implying between the two running backs.
See, that shows maturity... you're learning when to back out of a losing battle. Bravo.
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Steven Jackson is a better "all around" RB than LJ in my opinion and no I'm not just referring to fantasy football.

LJ has been a phenom, no doubt... but he had 80 more carries in 2006 than in 2005 with only 39 more rushing yards. LJ's receiving skills are average.

I'm not hatin' on the guy.. just saying that he is NOT the midwest's version of LT.

The O Line had nothing to do with that of course.
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I could argue Steven Jackson is better......if you wanna be dead serious about it.
Hell put Jarrett at RB problem solved and have you seen his zany receiving skills!!!!!!
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Go pull up his stats and watch him play......he's every bit as big and talented and actually has more versatility.
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