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Old 10-08-2007, 12:56 PM  
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Does Herm cut D. Rayner?
Does Herm cut Rayner? He missed the FG yesterday, a short one. He cut the last kicker that did that, under very much the same circumstances.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:43 PM   #16
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:44 PM   #17
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My brother had an observation about that kick.

He and I both noticed, or thought we saw, someone hurdle straight up in front of the kick. It looked like it was going to get blocked. However because the kick ended up making a quick left turn, the jumper was not able to execute the block on the ball.

Now my bro says...and I really don't know...but he was wondering if Raynor saw the kick block coming and just went ahead and drove it off to the side to prevent a block, recovered ball and run back by the Jags.

I don't have tivo so I couldn't go and rewatch it.

I wonder if my brother is just trying to make Raynor feel better about the flub up.
I thought something similar. He missed because it was going to get blocked. I don't think it was that deliberate, though. I doubt he was contemplating a return for a TD or anything. I think he just freaked because he saw that guy was going to block it, so he panicked and made a bad kick.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:47 PM   #18
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It looked like the DL hurdled Darche and was standing right in front of Rayner.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:48 PM   #19
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:53 PM   #20
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the thought of Rayner making a smart decision rather than just missed the kick crossed my mind. That guy was most likely going to block the kick and maybe Rayner hooked it on purpose to avoid the kick being blocked and recovered by the Jags and giving them better field position or even returned for a TD
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:54 PM   #21
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He won't cut Rayner.
He's proven he can get the job done.

Blocking was awful on that play so I can't hang it on him entirely.
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:49 PM   #22
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Rayner isn't going any where.
I sure hope not. He is the best we have had since Nick Lowery, heck may turn out better than him.
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:54 PM   #23
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He won't cut Rayner.
He's proven he can get the job done.

Blocking was awful on that play so I can't hang it on him entirely.
There were at least 3 guys in the backfield when the ball got set. If that won't make you rush a kick I don't know what will
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:58 PM   #24
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:03 PM   #25
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the thought of Rayner making a smart decision rather than just missed the kick crossed my mind. That guy was most likely going to block the kick and maybe Rayner hooked it on purpose to avoid the kick being blocked and recovered by the Jags and giving them better field position or even returned for a TD
That's damned plausible. Looked for the highlights at http://www.nfl.com/videos and found the kick after searching thru teams. "Jaguars 17, Chiefs 7" From that, I can see that that could have happened. When I saw it live, I thought it was tipped. That guy hurdled Darche and got in their faces.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:11 PM   #26
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My brother had an observation about that kick.

He and I both noticed, or thought we saw, someone hurdle straight up in front of the kick. It looked like it was going to get blocked. However because the kick ended up making a quick left turn, the jumper was not able to execute the block on the ball.

Now my bro says...and I really don't know...but he was wondering if Raynor saw the kick block coming and just went ahead and drove it off to the side to prevent a block, recovered ball and run back by the Jags.

I don't have tivo so I couldn't go and rewatch it.

I wonder if my brother is just trying to make Raynor feel better about the flub up.
I saw the same thing and wondered about that too. Thanks for posting because I was starting to doubt that I'd really seen it. The announcers didn't mention it, Herm didn't cut Rayner any slack in the postgame presser, none of the players mentioned it that I know of, and I hadn't seen it here until now. It looked like that guy just leaped over the center and was in perfect position to block that kick to me.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:16 PM   #27
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That's damned plausible. Looked for the highlights at http://www.nfl.com/videos and found the kick after searching thru teams. "Jaguars 17, Chiefs 7" From that, I can see that that could have happened. When I saw it live, I thought it was tipped. That guy hurdled Darche and got in their faces.

Isn't hurdling over the snapper illegal or am I just a moron?
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Isn't hurdling over the snapper illegal or am I just a moron?
I wouldn't think it would be
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:41 PM   #29
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Does Herm cut Rayner? He missed the FG yesterday, a short one. He cut the last kicker that did that, under very much the same circumstances.

You're reeruned if you don't know the difference between the two. BTW, how many kicks in a row did the last kicker make? How many times did his kickoffs end up in the endzone?
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My brother had an observation about that kick.

He and I both noticed, or thought we saw, someone hurdle straight up in front of the kick. It looked like it was going to get blocked. However because the kick ended up making a quick left turn, the jumper was not able to execute the block on the ball.

Now my bro says...and I really don't know...but he was wondering if Raynor saw the kick block coming and just went ahead and drove it off to the side to prevent a block, recovered ball and run back by the Jags.

I don't have tivo so I couldn't go and rewatch it.

I wonder if my brother is just trying to make Raynor feel better about the flub up.
Well that's what it looked like to me. The kick also had a funny wobble to it like it was kicked differently...Who knows? - A kicker who has been very good for us - missed one. Big deal.
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