Football DeSean Jackson - Page 2

Zouk · 12-24-2007, 12:52 PM

I'm curious if people would be upset if the Chiefs drafted him in the 5-8 range (assume Long and Dorsey are off the board).

I look at him as the explosive touchdown / big-play maker that this team desperately needs. The team right now has no explosive open-field player who can take the ball all the way every time he touches it. Bowe, Gonzalez, LJ, and Kolby are all move-the-chain types - they're not explosive. Plus big plays on special teams determine so many close games, as the Bears showed last year. I think he's a much more polished receiver than Ted Ginn was last year, coming from Tedford's pro-style offense. And remember Herm's first draft pick as a head coach was Santana Moss, who won many games for him with big punt returns and catches.

RedThat · 12-25-2007, 01:16 PM

I watched Desean Jackson a little bit this year, and he is explosive.
He's got game. He has the quickness, and can dance around guys. He's got moves no doubt. I love his explosiveness in the open field. we don't have that on our team. I definately think he would help in the return game. But, I just don't view that as a number 1 priority on our team.
Yeah I would be a little disappointed if we drafted him in the 1st round because our receiving core is pretty solid. Don't get me wrong, I think the Chiefs could use a #2 WR, but Im not sold taking a WR with the 1st pick. If we take a WR the 2nd, or 3rd round pick then that'd be cool.

StcChief · 12-25-2007, 01:24 PM

Oline first

RustShack · 12-25-2007, 01:28 PM

I wouldn't be crushed if we brought him in, especially if Doresy and Ellis are gone. We can draft good Olineman in rounds 2-4.

88TG88 · 12-25-2007, 01:34 PM

Against USC, the best team in the Pac 10

2005 1 rec, 9 yards
2006 2 rec, 41 yards: 2 punt returns, 13 yards
2007 5 rec 64 yards: 1 punt return, 0 yards

ZERO Touchdowns

And we want to draft him in the first round ?

Mecca · 12-25-2007, 01:35 PM

DeSean likes to run his mouth then not show up...This is a guy that didn't go to SC because they wouldn't give him #1...um Mike Williams was on the team at the time.

Zouk · 12-25-2007, 01:54 PM

We need big plays. A team built around defense with an explosive change the field punt returner is a great combination:

See 2006 Bears with Devin Hester
See 2000 Ravens with Jermaine Lewis

Devin Hester had 4 punt returns for scores in college. DeSean Jackson has had 6, even though he's only done the job for a year and a half (he's only a junior and he's been hurt half this year. As a freshman, he only returned 1 punt - and it went for a touchdown). Plus as I said before he's a skilled receiver coming from a pro-style system.

Now we clearly don't have a defense like those others teams. So I'd be happy taking Sedrick Ellis as well. But I think Jackson should not be discounted. He's the guy I want if Dorsey, Ellis, and Long are all off the board.

xbarretx · 12-25-2007, 01:57 PM

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**the Talking Can** · 12-25-2007, 01:58 PM

top 10, no way

HonestChieffan · 12-25-2007, 01:59 PM

I dont know who he is but if Herm likes him I think he is a dipshit.

LiL stumppy · 12-25-2007, 02:11 PM

Absolutely not. If we don't draft a OL in the first round, I will not bother to watch any of the games next year until the next draft.

ChiefsCountry · 12-25-2007, 03:19 PM

Jackson in most mocks has been going in the 20's. Major reach. He could slip into the second, which I wouldnt mind taking him then.

KevB · 12-25-2007, 05:00 PM

I realize we all want to find a comparison for the college kids coming into the draft, but comparing Jackson to Hester is like comparing Brohm to Peyton Manning. Similar skill sets in college, but you're comparing him to an all-time NFL player. Not a fair comparison. People thought Ginn at the very least would be an elite returner, and he hasn't been despite his physical characteristics. I think Jackson is too big a reach that early. Give me a big athletic guy in the top 10.

Mecca · 12-25-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy

Absolutely not. If we don't draft a OL in the first round, I will not bother to watch any of the games next year until the next draft.

Ah back again I see..

Still think they should have taken Joe Staley over Bowe?

dj56dt58 · 12-25-2007, 05:16 PM

Any chance Crabtree will come out?

LiL stumppy · 12-25-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ah back again I see..

Still think they should have taken Joe Staley over Bowe?

Our WR's were better than our OL, we wouldn't be in such a mess if we drafted a OL last year, and a WR in the second.

12-24-2007, 12:52 PM
Zouk Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: DC Casino cash: $10004900	DeSean Jackson I'm curious if people would be upset if the Chiefs drafted him in the 5-8 range (assume Long and Dorsey are off the board). I look at him as the explosive touchdown / big-play maker that this team desperately needs. The team right now has no explosive open-field player who can take the ball all the way every time he touches it. Bowe, Gonzalez, LJ, and Kolby are all move-the-chain types - they're not explosive. Plus big plays on special teams determine so many close games, as the Bears showed last year. I think he's a much more polished receiver than Ted Ginn was last year, coming from Tedford's pro-style offense. And remember Herm's first draft pick as a head coach was Santana Moss, who won many games for him with big punt returns and catches.
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12-25-2007, 01:16 PM	#16
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I watched Desean Jackson a little bit this year, and he is explosive. He's got game. He has the quickness, and can dance around guys. He's got moves no doubt. I love his explosiveness in the open field. we don't have that on our team. I definately think he would help in the return game. But, I just don't view that as a number 1 priority on our team. Yeah I would be a little disappointed if we drafted him in the 1st round because our receiving core is pretty solid. Don't get me wrong, I think the Chiefs could use a #2 WR, but Im not sold taking a WR with the 1st pick. If we take a WR the 2nd, or 3rd round pick then that'd be cool.
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12-25-2007, 01:24 PM	#17
StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	Oline first
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12-25-2007, 01:28 PM	#18
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3006954	I wouldn't be crushed if we brought him in, especially if Doresy and Ellis are gone. We can draft good Olineman in rounds 2-4. __________________
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12-25-2007, 01:34 PM	#19
88TG88 don't tell me about collage Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles Casino cash: $10009184	Against USC, the best team in the Pac 10 2005 1 rec, 9 yards 2006 2 rec, 41 yards: 2 punt returns, 13 yards 2007 5 rec 64 yards: 1 punt return, 0 yards ZERO Touchdowns And we want to draft him in the first round ?
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12-25-2007, 01:35 PM	#20
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-792950	DeSean likes to run his mouth then not show up...This is a guy that didn't go to SC because they wouldn't give him #1...um Mike Williams was on the team at the time.
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12-25-2007, 01:54 PM	#21
Zouk Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: DC Casino cash: $10004900	We need big plays. A team built around defense with an explosive change the field punt returner is a great combination: See 2006 Bears with Devin Hester See 2000 Ravens with Jermaine Lewis Devin Hester had 4 punt returns for scores in college. DeSean Jackson has had 6, even though he's only done the job for a year and a half (he's only a junior and he's been hurt half this year. As a freshman, he only returned 1 punt - and it went for a touchdown). Plus as I said before he's a skilled receiver coming from a pro-style system. Now we clearly don't have a defense like those others teams. So I'd be happy taking Sedrick Ellis as well. But I think Jackson should not be discounted. He's the guy I want if Dorsey, Ellis, and Long are all off the board. Last edited by Zouk; 12-25-2007 at 01:59 PM..
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12-25-2007, 01:58 PM	#23
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12-25-2007, 01:59 PM	#24
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12-25-2007, 02:11 PM	#25
LiL stumppy 62-21 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Casino cash: $9913684	Absolutely not. If we don't draft a OL in the first round, I will not bother to watch any of the games next year until the next draft. __________________ I'm just cakn partna
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12-25-2007, 03:19 PM	#26
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1691248	Jackson in most mocks has been going in the 20's. Major reach. He could slip into the second, which I wouldnt mind taking him then.
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12-25-2007, 05:00 PM	#27
KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	I realize we all want to find a comparison for the college kids coming into the draft, but comparing Jackson to Hester is like comparing Brohm to Peyton Manning. Similar skill sets in college, but you're comparing him to an all-time NFL player. Not a fair comparison. People thought Ginn at the very least would be an elite returner, and he hasn't been despite his physical characteristics. I think Jackson is too big a reach that early. Give me a big athletic guy in the top 10.
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12-25-2007, 05:16 PM	#29
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