Interesting blurb about Vermeil... - Page 2

shaneo69 · 01-13-2008, 01:54 PM

from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch...

"To this day, Vermeil still grimaces at the thought of his summit (offseason) meetings with Rams brass. The meeting after a 4-12 finish in 1998 has taken on near-legendary proportions. As the story goes, Vermeil wanted Mike White as his offensive coordinator and Jeff Hostetler as his quarterback. He got Mike Martz and Trent Green instead, with the help of some arm-twisting from team management."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...5?OpenDocument

Meanwhile, Carl continues to let his head coaches hire who they want...

siberian khatru · 01-13-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Remember who Vermeil wanted instead of LJ.

Franco Harris?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-13-2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Remember who Vermeil wanted instead of LJ.

ChiefaRoo · 01-13-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Remember who Vermeil wanted instead of LJ.

Who? Herschel Walker?

Deberg_1990 · 01-13-2008, 06:29 PM

DV had Kurt Warner sitting on his bench in 1998 and stuck it out with Tony Banks

KCTitus · 01-13-2008, 07:28 PM

Well...At least Vermeil got to draft Lawrence Phillips like he wanted...so...

**Skip Towne** · 01-13-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Remember who Vermeil wanted instead of LJ.

Boss Bailey?

milkman · 01-13-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Boss Bailey?

It was that DE that the Raiders drafted who never amounted to anything.

His name escapes me.

Edit:Tyler Brayton

Coach · 01-13-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts Sr

It was that DE that the Raiders drafted who never amounted to anything.

His name escapes me.

Tyler Brayton, from Colorado.

**Skip Towne** · 01-13-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts Sr

It was that DE that the Raiders drafted who never amounted to anything.

His name escapes me.

I was digging at Jim. He threw a fit when we drafted LJ. He wanted Boss Bailey.

C-Mac · 01-13-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by findthedr

DV brought in:
willie roaf
dante hall
priest holmes
casey wiegmann
eddie kennison
Jared allen

the problem is that he trusted his Defensive coordinators (GRob and Gun) to be able to pick out defensive players.
backups dont get many snaps..specially when your changing to a new scheme (martz installed the air coryell). Bellichick had Brady backing up bledsoe. Jax had david garrard on the bench, and Baltimore had Anderson (who lit it up with cleveland). big deal. if the player is truly superior they will shine when its their time.

Gun drafted Hall
Peterson went after and signed Roaf, and jointly with DV went after Priest for a backup to Tony Richardson.

Stinger · 01-13-2008, 08:37 PM

If I remember right Vermil did't want to do the trade for Marshall Faulk either.

ChiefaRoo · 01-13-2008, 08:49 PM

So let me get this straight. Carl hired Vermeil to regain his reputation after the Gun fiasco eventhough he knew he was a flawed coach. Then he made it worse and didn't properly oversee his choices for coaches (GRob) and players (Glenn Cadrez). I bet when Carl flew to DV's house and begged him to take the job he agreed to all of Dick's demands for total control over coaches and players. Carl did it hoping Vermeil might do well but also to save his own ass in public as at the time the King had lost control of KC's image and his own reputation needed saving. Remember Whitlock's article after the DV hire? Remember that interview at Carl's condo (while he was holding a big ass mixed drink) blabbering on about Vermeil and Superbowls? It makes perfect sense. He made the fans believe, made the Hunt's money and saved his own arse eventhough he knew the hire was imperfect and knowing DV needed oversight.

Demonpenz · 01-13-2008, 08:55 PM

hostedler can throw a pigskin a quarter of a mile

CoMoChief · 01-13-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneo69

from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch...

"To this day, Vermeil still grimaces at the thought of his summit (offseason) meetings with Rams brass. The meeting after a 4-12 finish in 1998 has taken on near-legendary proportions. As the story goes, Vermeil wanted Mike White as his offensive coordinator and Jeff Hostetler as his quarterback. He got Mike Martz and Trent Green instead, with the help of some arm-twisting from team management."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...5?OpenDocument

Meanwhile, Carl continues to let his head coaches hire who they want...

According to my roomate who's a die hard Rams fan, DV wanted to draft Curtis Enis (former Chicago Bears RB bust) instead of trading away that pick to Indy for Marshall Faulk.

The front office with John Shaw (who's underrated in my opinion) was primarily responsible for the Greatest Show on Turf, not DV

KCTitus · 01-13-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

So let me get this straight. Carl hired Vermeil to regain his reputation after the Gun fiasco eventhough he knew he was a flawed coach. Then he made it worse and didn't properly oversee his choices for coaches (GRob) and players (Glenn Cadrez). I bet when Carl flew to DV's house and begged him to take the job he agreed to all of Dick's demands for total control over coaches and players. Carl did it hoping Vermeil might do well but also to save his own ass in public as at the time the King had lost control of KC's image and his own reputation needed saving. Remember Whitlock's article after the DV hire? Remember that interview at Carl's condo (while he was holding a big ass mixed drink) blabbering on about Vermeil and Superbowls? It makes perfect sense. He made the fans believe, made the Clarks money and saved his own arse eventhough he knew the hire was imperfect and knowing DV needed oversight.

I believe it's the Hunt's, but other than that, it makes perfect sense.

01-13-2008, 01:54 PM
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	Interesting blurb about Vermeil... from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch... "To this day, Vermeil still grimaces at the thought of his summit (offseason) meetings with Rams brass. The meeting after a 4-12 finish in 1998 has taken on near-legendary proportions. As the story goes, Vermeil wanted Mike White as his offensive coordinator and Jeff Hostetler as his quarterback. He got Mike Martz and Trent Green instead, with the help of some arm-twisting from team management." http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...5?OpenDocument Meanwhile, Carl continues to let his head coaches hire who they want...
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ChiefaRoo MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Austin,TX Casino cash: $3927505	So let me get this straight. Carl hired Vermeil to regain his reputation after the Gun fiasco eventhough he knew he was a flawed coach. Then he made it worse and didn't properly oversee his choices for coaches (GRob) and players (Glenn Cadrez). I bet when Carl flew to DV's house and begged him to take the job he agreed to all of Dick's demands for total control over coaches and players. Carl did it hoping Vermeil might do well but also to save his own ass in public as at the time the King had lost control of KC's image and his own reputation needed saving. Remember Whitlock's article after the DV hire? Remember that interview at Carl's condo (while he was holding a big ass mixed drink) blabbering on about Vermeil and Superbowls? It makes perfect sense. He made the fans believe, made the Hunt's money and saved his own arse eventhough he knew the hire was imperfect and knowing DV needed oversight. Last edited by ChiefaRoo; 01-13-2008 at 09:13 PM..
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