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Old 02-27-2008, 10:43 AM  
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Looking at it now, McFadden is the only guy we really don't want
you look at the top guys and we can use most of them


Chris long, Vernon Gholston - adding another impact DE can really be a game changer on defense

Dorsey, Ellis - a stud DT can also really impact your whole defense.

Jake Long - upgrade at OT is probably our biggest need.

Matt Ryan - we haven't had a franchise QB since Lenny

McFadden - meh ... he might be great but we can't afford to spend more on RB right now.


so GOOOOOOO McFadden!!

i hope he is top 4 pick so it gives us more options.








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Old 02-27-2008, 05:45 PM   #16
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OR, we could take him, move Donnie Edwards inside, let Nap Harris ride pine, and let Gholston play OLB. He's not ideally an OLB in a Cover 2, but you could find ways to utilize him. His ability on the field would make it easy.

Gholston blitzing from Jared Allen's side = sack for Tamba Hali.
That's just ONE way to use him.

To think that Long or Gholston would sit behind Tamba Hali is laughable.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:04 PM   #17
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**** Matt Ryan. No.


This guy will NOT be a Franchise QB. I would bet my house on it.
I'll bet your house on it too!
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:09 PM   #18
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I'll bet your house on it too!
Just because he's the best QB in this shitty class of QBs doesn't mean he'll be a FC QB.

This guy has Alex Smith written all over him.

He's gonna be rich, and that's about it.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:32 PM   #19
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I'd take McFadden if we could trade LJ's punk ass somewhere else.
we've already paid LJ ...... he's not going anywhere.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:32 PM   #20
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NEITHER would be backups, dipwad.
Insightful.

Care to explain where either of them would start?
Surely you aren't suggesting that Jared Allen would be supplanted by either are you?
There's always Tamba Hali's spot. Rob one First Round Peter to play another First Round Paul.
Makes sense. Or we could move one either Gholston or Long inside... Let them play something other than their natural position. Or we could always create a special spot for one of them to find a way to get them on the field. Or I suppose we could trade Jared Allen. He could've been had last season for a 1st and a 3rd and no one budged, but surely we'll find someone willing to give up two #1's.

You might wanna hold off on the namecalling.
Especially on the kind that calls someone else's intelligence into question.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:38 PM   #21
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Bullshit.

You have one DE who is one bad move away from being suspended for the year.
The same DE the Chiefs just gave 9 million dollars to.
They're uber-concerned about that possibility.
So spend a Top 5 pick on an insurance policy.
It'll work out great in the event that Allen stays clean.

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Tamba is far from a sure thing at DE.
But Gholston and Chris "I haven't played a down in the NFL" Long are?
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:39 PM   #22
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I'm really getting a little sick of the Gholston is a back-up comment because it isn't true. He would START for the Chiefs or any other team for that matter.
Back-up?? That's laughable.
Gholston will come in and immediate replace Hali as a starter?
Is that what you're suggesting?
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:40 PM   #23
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bullshit. who is he going to replace:

jared allen? no
Tamba Hali? possibly, but that would be a waste of a 1st round pick to make him a backup.

Chris Long and Gholston would be backups for the chiefs (at least as rookies)....and that isnt worth a top 5 pick.

If you get either player, it would be as a replacement for Jared Allen...that is the only reason.
Exactly.

This Madden '08 school of General Management is hilarious.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:43 PM   #24
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if thats the way it falls.. I would rather have McFadden than the next best available...

it would suck if it fell like that... and if it did, we should be looking to trade down.. but if we can't... you gotta take him.. IMO
why do we take him for at least 18-20 million to be on the bench. We are also paying LJ that kind of money. We cannot tie up that much into 1 position.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:45 PM   #25
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why do we take him for at least 18-20 million to be on the bench. We are also paying LJ that kind of money. We cannot tie up that much into 1 position.
Hush up with all your "sensible" GM talk.
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Exactly.

This Madden '08 school of General Management is hilarious.

Then why why are you here? Since this is a site to discuss and give opinions on football and other general topics from fellow posters
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:49 PM   #27
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Then why why are you here? Since this is a site to discuss and give opinions on football and other general topics from fellow posters
I'm here to hopefully raise the level of those discussions.
You cannot draft a DE with a Top 5 pick who will not come into your organization and start. Especially when there are clear cut options for obtaining a MUCH cheaper (and likely more productive) #3 DE in Free Agency.

You put that #5 pick to better use.
Get a Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey to complement your two bookend DE's.
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I'm here to hopefully raise the level of those discussions.
You cannot draft a DE with a Top 5 pick who will not come into your organization and start. Especially when there are clear cut options for obtaining a MUCH cheaper (and likely more productive) #3 DE in Free Agency.

You put that #5 pick to better use.
Get a Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey to complement your two bookend DE's.

The Ghoston pick could also be a contingency plan if Jared Allen leaves if Gholston is the BPA at the 5 spot .
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:56 PM   #29
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The Ghoston pick could also be a contingency plan if Jared Allen leaves if Gholston is the BPA at the 5 spot .
None of us know now where Jared Allen is going to end up.
The Chiefs are working to get him signed long term.
You can't draft an insurance policy at #5 overall...

Round Two or Three? Certainly...
Or you could always sign LaBoy, Odom or McCray and you'd have a young competent replacement there on the chance that Allen jets. Coupled with your #5 pick at another spot.
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None of us know now where Jared Allen is going to end up.
The Chiefs are working to get him signed long term.

Knowing King Carl, Allen might bolt and we're fuckED if he's the BPA when we pick then take him. Which would mean Ellis,Dorsey,and Chris Long are off the board
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