Gholston = Merri man - Page 2

Mr. Laz · 05:02 PM

without the roids?

Name: *Vernon Gholston
College: Ohio State Number: 50
Height: 6-4 Weight: 258
Position: DE Pos2: OLB
Class/Draft Year: rJr/2008
40 Time: 4.64
bench press - 37
Vertical - 35 1/2
Broad - 10'4"

Name: *Shawne Merri man
College: Maryland Number: 45
Height: 6-4 Weight: 272
Position: DE Pos2: ILB
Class/Draft Year: Jr/2005
40 Time: 4.68

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite? Yes Height: 6043 Weight: 272 40 Yrd Dash: 20 Yrd Dash: 10 Yrd Dash: Wonderlic: 19	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 25 Vertical Jump: Broad Jump: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 3-Cone Drill:	Dates: 03/16/2005 Height: 6043 Weight: 272 40 Yrd Dash: 4.64 20 Yrd Dash: 10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps: Vertical Jump: 40 Broad Jump: 10'1" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.21 3-Cone Drill:

Mr. Laz · 02-27-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by findthedr

Gholston cant play LB for us...he is too heavy. He runs a 4.68....DJ ran a 4.52.

If he is selected he would be a replacement of JA (which means he is getting traded). Other than that, he would be a backup. not going to happen. Essentially the choice would be JA or Gholston...not both with top 5 money.

i disagree completely, Mr. Voyager.

i don't think he would ever be used as a LB for us in the first place.

on passing downs, we would use JA on one end and Gholston on the other.

Depend on how well gholston played the run he would rotate in with Tamba Hali.

i haven't seen anything from Hali to suggest that he's an impact starter yet.

bowener · 02-27-2008, 06:29 PM

Merriman plays LB pretty well and he runs slower than that...... but i think we see what you are saying.

bowener · 02-27-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i disagree completely, Mr. Voyager.

i don't think he would ever be used as a LB for us in the first place.

on passing downs, we would use JA on one end and Gholston on the other.

Depend on how well gholston played the run he would rotate in with Tamba Hali.

i haven't seen anything from Hali to suggest that he's an impact starter yet.

I agree with this some what. I could see us keeping Hali and Allen at end as well, with VG blitzing off the edge or up the gut like merriman does for SD on passing downs. I kind of like the idea of playing him as a LB if he could do it.

beach tribe · 02-27-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

"roidman" Merriman plays LB pretty well and he runs slower than that...... but i think we see what you are saying.

We do not play 3-4.

beach tribe · 02-27-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

I agree with this some what. I could see us keeping Hali and Allen at end as well, with VG blitzing off the edge or up the gut like "roidman" Merriman does for SD on passing downs. I kind of like the idea of playing him as a LB if he could do it.

See above.

keg in kc · 02-27-2008, 07:20 PM

I think we should take him in the first, and a DT in the second, and then maybe another DT in the third. In fact, we shouldn't ever draft anything but defensive linemen on day 1.

Logical · 02-27-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

I agree with this some what. I could see us keeping Hali and Allen at end as well, with VG blitzing off the edge or up the gut like "roidman" Merriman does for SD on passing downs. I kind of like the idea of playing him as a LB if he could do it.

While I agree with you about Hali, man drafting a player for only passing downs seems like a luxury we cannot afford. But then again we have LJ who must come out on critical passing downs for the offense, so why not.

Chiefnj2 · 02-27-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i disagree completely, Mr. Voyager.

i don't think he would ever be used as a LB for us in the first place.

on passing downs, we would use JA on one end and Gholston on the other.

Depend on how well gholston played the run he would rotate in with Tamba Hali.

i haven't seen anything from Hali to suggest that he's an impact starter yet.

8 sacks his rookie year is a pretty big impact.

bowener · 02-27-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

See above.

I know nothing of him really. I meant was if he was a LB have him be our roid boy and blitz on passing downs. He would still be a LB on the rest of the plays though... but like I stipulated, only if he could play it.

htismaqe · 02-27-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

8 sacks his rookie year is a pretty big impact.

He was 5th in the league amongst all defensive linemen in forced fumbles as well...

BigChiefFan · 02-27-2008, 08:44 PM

Hali would move inside-It's not a problem in the least. Keg, I understand, we have other needs, but VALUE, VALUE, VALUE is what the draft is all about. If Long is gone(pun intended) drafting O-line at 5 is insane and a trade down is out of the question for a team looking for an identity and devoid of talent.

Chiefnj2 · 02-27-2008, 08:46 PM

Nobody is concerned about Gholston against the run?

bowener · 02-27-2008, 08:47 PM

I have to admit I wouldnt mind being the 2001 Ravens reincarnate if we chose that as our Identity. Hopefully if we did that we could find some O before 6 years had passed though.

htismaqe · 02-27-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Nobody is concerned about Gholston against the run?

No more than I was concerned about Jared Allen his first 2 years, or Hali now...

TRR · 02-27-2008, 08:55 PM

I absolutely hate the idea of drafting Gholston at #5. I don't believe he can be an effective LB in the Cover 2 scheme at his weight and speed, and with as many needs as KC has, you can't wrap up that much money on 3 DE's. The only way I would be in favor of Gholston is if Jared Allen was traded for two first round picks...

And to think Hali hasn't been productive in his first two seasons is ridiculous. He has been a very solid player, and will get better (and healthier) in year 3 and beyond.

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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9420185	I absolutely hate the idea of drafting Gholston at #5. I don't believe he can be an effective LB in the Cover 2 scheme at his weight and speed, and with as many needs as KC has, you can't wrap up that much money on 3 DE's. The only way I would be in favor of Gholston is if Jared Allen was traded for two first round picks... And to think Hali hasn't been productive in his first two seasons is ridiculous. He has been a very solid player, and will get better (and healthier) in year 3 and beyond.
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