Anyone see the Royals-Tigers Brawl?

[Mi_chief_fan]

Pretty impressive. Mike Sweeney faces a huge fine & long suspension. I wonder what Jeff Weaver said that made Sweeney so mad?

[keg in kc]

Kind of odd to see it from Sweeney. He and Tony Richardson are themost openly "christian athletes" in Kansas City, and that's not something I expected from the softspoken choirboy.

Maybe he was possessed.

[Bob Dole]

According to the AP story Bob Dole found:

[QUOTE]As Sweeney got ready to bat with two outs and a runner on second base, he asked the home plate unpire to have Weaver move the rosin bag which was near the pitching rubber. It is supposed to be behind the mound. The umpire complied. As the ump returned to the plate Weaver shouted at the Royals All-Star first basemen and according to Sweeney said, "You're a F&$%ing P*(^^#! F&$% you!". [/QUOTE]

[DanT]

Mike Sweeney didn't tell Weaver to turn his back. If Weaver wants to offer his opinion on Sweeney's manhood to Sweeney, he could have had the courtesy to await Sweeney's reply. I appreciate Sweeney's attempt to get Weaver's attention by winging a batting helmet at him. That was a much more effective maneuver than a discrete clearing of the throat, especially with over 20,000 fans roaring. In an era when interactions are all too brief, it was refreshing to watch Sweeney interact with Weaver for such an extended period of time. I'm sure Weaver appreciated the guidance, as did Fick.

[MrBlond]

This reminds me of the scene in "Butch and Sundance" when Paul Newman says the guy: "Before we start fightin, lets get the rules straight." the man replies: "there aint no rules in a fight." and [SIZE=3]BANG!!![/SIZE] Newman kicks him right in the shin. If Weaver wants to fight, and calling another man a P*ssy indicates that he does, he better not turn his back.

[DaWolf]

It was a good fight. The type of fight I expect to see from two frustrated teams going nowhere.

Roberto Hernandez said last night they still have to play each other 11 times. Should be interesting... and ugly...

[Mi_chief_fan]

Star players on a contending team would have made Weaver pay with his bat. I seriously doubt this was the first, nor will it be the last time that Sweeney is insulted on the field. He's gonna have an awfully short career if this is how he reacts.

Like I said, it all comes back to managing. Teams like New York and Seattle strike back with their bats; teams like Kansas City and Tampa Bay charge the mound when they're being dominated.

[Mi_chief_fan]

BTW, Dave Stewart, aside from being very large & intimidating, was also a master in martial arts. If there ever was a brawl, i'd want him on my side.

[keg in kc]

Mi, how many brawls have the Royals had this season?

[Mi_chief_fan]

You tell me, you're the Royals fan.

Tony Muser does have a reputation as a headhunter.

[keg in kc]

The answer is "not many".

This is the only one I can think of (although I think I remember one vaguely from April or May), but I haven't exactly followed the team with baited breath. So, while I don't like Muser (I won't go to another game until he's fired), your argument that we fight instead of beating teams on the field with the bats is pretty weak. It's not like we're brawling nightly or something...

No offense, but if you don't follow the team, you have no business making comments like that. That reeks of packfan.

[Mi_chief_fan]

When the only highlights of you're team is when they brawl, that tends to stereotype them. I think they brawled with the Angels earlier this yeear, but I may be mistaken. I also off the top of my head can't tell you how many double plays they grounded into either(i'm guessing you can't either). Heck, you follow them, and you don't even know.

As far as "packfanesque", i'm not the owner/punter of his [i]All-Idiot Team[/i] because I strive to be like him.

[keg in kc]

Whether or not you strive to be like him, you're doing a pretty solid imitation right now.

"When the only highlights of you're team is when they brawl, that tends to stereotype them " sounds an awful lot like "that's why you haven't won a playoff game in 8 years".

I've seen probably 100 different Royals highlights this season.

I remember 2 fights.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Of course you've seen a hundred different Royals highlights: you live in KC. I said nothing about the Royals lack of posteseason success in recent years, with the state of baseball, I know it's not their fault.

In the end, we agree on 1 thing and disagree on another:

We agree that Muser is a sorry manager.

We disagree about Sweeney's actions(you view them as heroic, I view them as bush-league, chicken-$hit). Of course, Jeff Weaver is a punk, and it couldn't have happened to a better guy, but Sweeney should of at least waited until he was provoked, or better yet, beat him with his bat.

[keg in kc]

Where exactly did I say I viewed Sweeney's actions as heroic? All I said is that the Royals aren't a bunch of brawlers.

All I said about Sweeney's attack is that I'm surprised by it. He's a vocal Christian athlete in KC, and fighting is the last thing I expected from him.

Other than that, I have no real judgement. Fighting is just something that happens in baseball from time to time...

[Mi_chief_fan]

Others were voicing their support of Sweeney, you were, as usual, a voice of reason. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

However, i'm sticking by my view of Muser.