My Last Official Mock.. maybe. - Page 2

Direckshun · 10:51 AM

I might have another mock when the Jared Allen trade goes through.

For this mock, I'm assuming the same thing everybody else is -- that the Chiefs trade Jared Allen for the Vikings' 1st (#17) and 3rd (#73) and a second next year. I anticipate the Chiefs may auction off their #5 for a lower first rounder and a 2nd, but I'm not going to go that far with this Draft.

This should come as no surprise to a couple folks who have spoken with me in this forum for the last couple months.

1st round

5. DT Sedrick Ellis (USC) -- Best DL prospect in the Draft, forget your Gholstons and your Longs and your Dorseys. I've loved this guy from day one.

17. (from Vikings) OT Chris Williams (Vanderbilt) -- The OT class is deep this year with potential 10-year starters at tackle. I use a first-rounder to snatch up one of the best ones available.

2nd round

35. DE Lawrence Jackson (USC) -- Well hell, why not just pick up the entire USC defensive line? Jackson flourished next to Ellis, and we could use that familiarity as a suddenly-thin DE corps needs help. He's not a speed-rusher, but he's got good technique and he's got a strong frame.

3rd round

66. DE Chris Ellis (Virginia Tech) -- Noticing a theme in my Draft so far? Building the team from the line of scrimmage out... It's not intentional or anything, I just believe this guy will be amongst the BPA when we're up in the third. Ellis is a lightning-fast, undersized DE who has some upside as he fills out his frame. He'd do a lot better in a rotation with Hali and Jackson than he would as a starter.

73. (from Vikings) OG Eric Young (Tennessee) -- Hey I've got an idea, if you're going to burn a Draft pick on a guard who may convert to tackle, why not do it in the third round with Eric Young rather than doing it in the goddamn first round with Brandon Albert?

82. (from Vikings) WR Eddie Royal (Virginia Tech) -- What the Chiefs lack primarily in their offense, perhaps even more than a solid LT, is a deep threat. The closest the Chiefs have to that would be Jeff Webb. Eddie Royal is a potentially elite downfield threat -- 4.3/4.4 speed combined with great route running. The major question here is his size (5'10", 190) and his hands. But this pick addresses a serious need while taking one of the best pure deep threats in the Draft.

4th round

105. CB Trae Williams (USF) -- I don't think we need to pick up more than one potential starting CB in this year's Draft. We have Surtain for another year, and our depth isn't great but Brackenridge is solid in nickel. I'll fix depth with another CB pick when it's appropriate.

5th round

136. (from Dolphins) Adarius Bowman (Oklahoma State) -- Vertical threats come and go, but red zone threats are forever. I had the pleasure of watching some of Bowman in action and the guy is a man amongst boys in the secondary. A towering 6'4", 220 lbs, he's an elite route-runner who can get open and sports a pair of glue-like palms.

140. TE Craig Stevens (California) -- We've been hearing about this guy all offseason, and he is the real deal. He's not going to be the thundering blocker that Dunn was, but he's the best blocking TE in the Draft -- and guess what? He can actually receive the ball!

6th round

170. K Taylor Mehlhaff (Wisconsin) -- Wishful thinking. The more and more I look at the Draft, the more convinced I am that Mehlhaff is in Shanahan's crosshairs. Mehlhaff is the only kicker the deserves a pick, so I assume the Donkeys will Draft him way early, in the 5th or even in the 4th.

182. (from Buccaneers, swapped #187 with Vikings) CB Dwight Lowery (San Jose State) -- Hello, depth. Maybe even more... Lowery is an elite athlete that people considered a 2nd and 3rd round prospect until he ran a 4.6 at the Combine. His stock has fallen hard, but he still fits the Cover 2 pretty well as long as he's not asked to do too much. Lowery looks faster on the field anyway.

7th round

210. RB Dantrell Savage (Oklahoma State) -- Needed a change of pace back to LJ, and this incredibly deep RB class reveals a great option for the Chiefs in the 7th. Savage is a speed demon with 4.4 speed who might be able to help us return some kicks.

239. (from Giants) SS Caleb Campbell (Army) -- This is some more wishful thinking on my behalf. I believe that Campbell is a mid-rounder, but Army and Navy prospects always seem to get overlooked. Campbell is one of the remaining safeties on the bottom half of the Draft that sports enough speed to be an effective Cover 2 safety. We need to cut Wesley and McGraw is a ST guy, nothing more.

Direckshun · 04-22-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

I forwarded Carl your list.

Thanks.

Holy shit that's a brilliant idea. I should do that.

Edit: Blah, I can't find Carl's email.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-22-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Holy shit that's a brilliant idea. I should do that.

Edit: Blah, I can't find Carl's email.

[email protected]

Him and Gretz share an account.

**DaKCMan AP** · 04-22-2008, 12:12 PM

Not crazy about Lawrence Jackson.

Sfeihc · 04-22-2008, 12:17 PM

Love it, D. You clearly understand what the draft is all about. I like Campbell in the 7th, see the Texans in the CP Mock. Which BTW, the Texans And Broncos are ready for their draft grades.

tiptap · 04-22-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

You don't think Williams could beat out McIntosh for LT?

Then what the hell am I drafting him for?

Next year when McIntosh's contract is over.

Raiderh8ter77 · 04-22-2008, 04:55 PM

hey idiot, we dont need 2 ends, we need to stockpile ot's i want chris williams in 1st with brohm in 2nd rd branden flowers or carl nicks in 3rd cherilus and eric young and so on and so fourth

kstater · 04-22-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderh8ter77

hey idiot, we dont need 2 ends, we need to stockpile ot's i want chris williams in 1st with brohm in 2nd rd branden flowers or carl nicks in 3rd cherilus and eric young and so on and so fourth

Well that's a good way to run down a team. Draft nothing but one position.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-22-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderh8ter77

hey idiot, we dont need 2 ends, we need to stockpile ot's i want chris williams in 1st with brohm in 2nd rd branden flowers or carl nicks in 3rd cherilus and eric young and so on and so fourth

Hey idiot, we currently have TWO defensive ends on the roster.

And we're about to trade one of them.

kstater · 04-22-2008, 05:03 PM

Oh and, Win Now!!!!!

Raiderh8ter77 · 04-22-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hey idiot, we currently have TWO defensive ends on the roster.

And we're about to trade one of them.

but both of those players on the mock suck

Raiderh8ter77 · 04-22-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Well that's a good way to run down a team. Draft nothing but one position.

well who do you want to be the starting ot's mcintosh!? turdley?!

kstater · 04-22-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderh8ter77

well who do you want to be the starting ot's mcintosh!? turdley?!

I'm sure the Chiefs' will get a couple quality linemen in the draft. But I sure as heck don't want them to spend the whole draft selecting them.

ChiefsCountry · 04-22-2008, 05:18 PM

We need 2 OT's - future LT to groom or push McIntosh and a RT to push/start over Herb Taylor. We dont need to draft 500 of them. We need 2 DE's right now we have JA and Hali with Turk being the option if JA is traded.

Mizzou_8541 · 04-22-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I just have a lot of maybes at those positions.

RG -- We've been talking about maybe moving McIntosh in to G. There's been limited buzz about Stallings, although I doubt he makes the team. Taylor has the ability to man down the position but he's looking more like an OT every day, and Young would be our unknown quantity. Hell there's even buzz about bringing Niswanger over if Brian Waters plays C.

RT -- Virtually the same conversation, but without Stallings or Niswanger. Svitek will no doubt get a look as well.

Direkshun...

Two questions-
1) Do you think this trade is going down?
2) Do you want this trade to go down?

Direckshun · 04-22-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

Direkshun...

Two questions-
1) Do you think this trade is going down?
2) Do you want this trade to go down?

1. Everything I've read leads me to believe that it is.

2. I honestly do, if we're getting a 2008 1st and 3rd, and a 2nd in 2009.

04-22-2008, 10:51 AM
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