Football Walsh Gives NFL 8 Tapes of Pats Cheating - Page 2

**noa** · 05-07-2008, 08:58 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3386162

Ex-Pats employee Walsh sends NFL video of Pats' taping

After brokering a deal to protect himself, former New England Patriots employee Matt Walsh has finally turned over his evidence in the videotaping controversy.
The New York Times reported and the NFL confirmed on Wednesday that Walsh sent eight tapes to the league that show the Patriots recording the play-calling signals of five opponents in six games between 2000 and 2002.
Taping the signals of opposing teams is prohibited by league rules, and the Patriots were already fined $750,000 and docked a first-round draft choice in September for taping the New York Jets. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell left open the possibility that more penalties could be levied.
A Patriots employee from 1997-2003, Walsh reached an agreement to turn over the tapes in exchange for being indemnified from all future legal fees.
The New York Times obtained a list of the Walsh tapes, and the league confirmed that list, which says that the Patriots taped offensive and defensive coaches in regular-season games against the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns and San Diego Chargers. The team also made video of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2002 AFC Championship Game.
Walsh's tapes do not include the video of the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough before the 2002 Super Bowl, as reported by the Boston Herald.
"Mr. Walsh has never claimed to have a tape of the walk-through," said Walsh's lawyer Michael Levy, according to the Times. "Mr. Walsh has never been the source of any of the media speculation about such a tape. Mr. Walsh was not the source for the Feb. 2 Boston Herald article."
Walsh has separate meetings scheduled on Tuesday with the commissioner and Senator Arlen Specter in which he is expected to provide additional details about the taping process.
Under his agreement with the league, Walsh can retain copies of his videotapes, but he cannot use them without the consent of the NFL.

kcchiefsus · 05-07-2008, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Actually this is nothing new, all of the stuff on those tapes was admitted to by the Patriots to the commissioner.

The only way they'd have gotten more punishment would be if he had the tape of the walkthrough.

No, that is not true. Bob Kraft came out recently and said there was nothing to the tapes. They never admitted anything at all about these tapes. The punishment they have already received only deals with the taping of the New York Jets.

Brock · 05-07-2008, 09:53 PM

Asterisk em!

irishjayhawk · 05-07-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

I don't consider giving up a 1st round pick and the massive fine on BB to be lax.

I agree that Denver's penalties for their multiple infractions of cheating the salary cap, greasing jerseys, illegal martial arts blocking techniques, circumventing the draft order, and bribing officials were extremely lax. But now their titles are generally considered to be shams throughout the league, so I'm not sure what it gained them.

1st round pick? They let them keep the #7. Why? Once a pick is that teams, isn't it fair game to take away? Seems to me they just gave the illusion of punishment. And that "fine" on BB is lax because he can make it up easily.

irishjayhawk · 05-07-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

No, that is not true. Bob Kraft came out recently and said there was nothing to the tapes. They never admitted anything at all about these tapes. The punishment they have already received only deals with the taping of the New York Jets.

I think that's true.

Mecca · 05-07-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

1st round pick? They let them keep the #7. Why? Once a pick is that teams, isn't it fair game to take away? Seems to me they just gave the illusion of punishment. And that "fine" on BB is lax because he can make it up easily.

I guess they should have just taken all their picks then eh?

Brock · 05-07-2008, 09:56 PM

I don't care. There's nothing you can really do to them at this point, they already have the rings.

beach tribe · 05-07-2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

I don't care. There's nothing you can really do to them at this point, they already have the rings.

Those aren't the only rings they want. Reguardless the NFL is not going to do shit.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 05-07-2008, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

they don't call him rerun for no reason.

irishjayhawk · 05-07-2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I guess they should have just taken all their picks then eh?

Well, to say they'll take their first round pick and skip over a traded pick (which is THEIRS) to take #31, is a bit lax, yes.

Should they have taken all their picks? No.

Have they been punished for all 8 tapes that have now come to light? No.

Extra Point · 05-07-2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

And they still would beat the Herm lead Chiefs 6 straight....

Without requesting an english-english translation, I can tell you this:

The Chiefs can only beat the hard teams on their schedule. Like, how many previous SB winners have the Chiefs beat the following preseason/season? I can think of at least 4: SF, STL, GB, NE.

kcxiv · 05-07-2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

I just want this to go away. It's not good for the game at all.

I think its better for the game. Look at what happend with the NBA ref that was busted for gambling on NBA games. Its a thing of the passed now. IT will be the same for the NFL. NFL is such a huge juggernaut, that it wont even phase it.

stlchiefs · 05-07-2008, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

No, that is not true. Bob Kraft came out recently and said there was nothing to the tapes. They never admitted anything at all about these tapes. The punishment they have already received only deals with the taping of the New York Jets.

That is what I recall as well. The fact that Mecca has posted again, but not backed up his previous statement further strengthens my belief in this.

CoMoChief · 05-08-2008, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noa

Wow, way to turn this into a Herm bashing moment.

The truth hurts doesn't it?

CoMoChief · 05-08-2008, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extra Point

Without requesting an english-english translation, I can tell you this:

The Chiefs can only beat the hard teams on their schedule. Like, how many previous SB winners have the Chiefs beat the following preseason/season? I can think of at least 4: SF, STL, GB, NE.

Who gives a shit about who we beat in the preseason?!?!?!

Seriously?

CoMoChief · 05-08-2008, 12:32 AM

If the Pats videotaped our signals and walk through's, their whole team would just get dumber by the minute

05-07-2008, 08:58 PM
noa Band Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $-634547	Walsh Gives NFL 8 Tapes of Pats Cheating http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3386162 Ex-Pats employee Walsh sends NFL video of Pats' taping After brokering a deal to protect himself, former New England Patriots employee Matt Walsh has finally turned over his evidence in the videotaping controversy. The New York Times reported and the NFL confirmed on Wednesday that Walsh sent eight tapes to the league that show the Patriots recording the play-calling signals of five opponents in six games between 2000 and 2002. Taping the signals of opposing teams is prohibited by league rules, and the Patriots were already fined $750,000 and docked a first-round draft choice in September for taping the New York Jets. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell left open the possibility that more penalties could be levied. A Patriots employee from 1997-2003, Walsh reached an agreement to turn over the tapes in exchange for being indemnified from all future legal fees. The New York Times obtained a list of the Walsh tapes, and the league confirmed that list, which says that the Patriots taped offensive and defensive coaches in regular-season games against the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns and San Diego Chargers. The team also made video of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2002 AFC Championship Game. Walsh's tapes do not include the video of the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough before the 2002 Super Bowl, as reported by the Boston Herald. "Mr. Walsh has never claimed to have a tape of the walk-through," said Walsh's lawyer Michael Levy, according to the Times. "Mr. Walsh has never been the source of any of the media speculation about such a tape. Mr. Walsh was not the source for the Feb. 2 Boston Herald article." Walsh has separate meetings scheduled on Tuesday with the commissioner and Senator Arlen Specter in which he is expected to provide additional details about the taping process. Under his agreement with the league, Walsh can retain copies of his videotapes, but he cannot use them without the consent of the NFL.
Posts: 8,302

05-07-2008, 09:53 PM	#17
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	Asterisk em!
Posts: 47,314

05-07-2008, 09:56 PM	#21
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	I don't care. There's nothing you can really do to them at this point, they already have the rings.
Posts: 47,314

05-08-2008, 12:32 AM	#30
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	If the Pats videotaped our signals and walk through's, their whole team would just get dumber by the minute __________________
Posts: 39,245