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Old 09-07-2008, 11:51 PM  
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So How Many Times Did We Run on 1st Down?
Just curious as I hadn't seen the actual statistics on how many times that we run on 1st, vs throwing.

I noticed twice on first down that we passed with an empty backfield.

Is this stat freely available?
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:16 AM   #16
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I know it sucks... I personally hate it... But it was obviously the game plan... much like the Colts last year... and the year before that... i suspect that it wasnt changed because Herm belived it was the only way to win this game...
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:56 AM   #17
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I didn't see any bootlegs either. That usually works and it gives them something else to think about.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:08 AM   #18
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play action on firstdown works.....well it works against our D anyway.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:19 AM   #19
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I don't mind running so much on first down it's where we were trying to run it that killed me. It became obvious early on that we weren't gonna be able to run up the middle against their front three. Off tackle and around the corner would have been nice. Sigh...

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Old 09-08-2008, 06:28 AM   #20
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I'm sure that someone on the offensive line enjoyed LJ running his head up their ass.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:17 AM   #21
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I don't mind running so much on first down it's where we were trying to run it that killed me. It became obvious early on that we weren't gonna be able to run up the middle against their front three. Off tackle and around the corner would have been nice. Sigh...

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Old 09-08-2008, 07:20 AM   #22
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I know it sucks... I personally hate it... But it was obviously the game plan... much like the Colts last year... and the year before that... i suspect that it wasnt changed because Herm belived it was the only way to win this game...
I'm a Herm supporter but I admit the common denominator is Herm. gailey knows better than this.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:22 AM   #23
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I don't mind running so much on first down it's where we were trying to run it that killed me. It became obvious early on that we weren't gonna be able to run up the middle against their front three. Off tackle and around the corner would have been nice. Sigh...

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LJ's claim to fame was running off tackle and on sweeps with the 2005 Chiefs. Without that 4400 yd passing game, he's Clark Kent, not Superman. Bring on Kolby/Charles/Savage/Battle. If we are so stupid as to run exclusively between the tackles, at least put a RB in who can get his own yards.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:23 AM   #24
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its the SOS shit different year. they may as well tell the D LJ will run right here. I guess around the end is out of the Q ???? if we pass on 1st down, god forbid we may suprise someone. HA right
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:28 AM   #25
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A better question IMO is this: "How many times did the Chiefs run on first down with LJ in the backfield?"

If I'm New England, and the Chiefs have 1st down with LJ in the backfield, I'm putting 8 guys in the box every time.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:31 AM   #26
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looks like another predictable year yawn.............
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:33 AM   #27
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I didn't see any bootlegs either. That usually works and it gives them something else to think about.
Bootlegs wouldn't have worked yesterday, because Mike Vrabel was regularly inthe backfield before McIntosh was out of his stance.

So Croyle would have been rolling directly into Vrabel.

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Old 09-08-2008, 07:35 AM   #28
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I'm a Herm supporter but I admit the common denominator is Herm. gailey knows better than this.
Dude, if KCJ is throwing Herm under the bus, you KNOW it is bad.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:36 AM   #29
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:36 AM   #30
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A better question IMO is this: "How many times did the Chiefs run on first down with LJ in the backfield?"

If I'm New England, and the Chiefs have 1st down with LJ in the backfield, I'm putting 8 guys in the box every time.
Good time to call a fade pattern to Bowe or play action for Gonzales. The Pats showed us how it was done on their 3rd and 11 from the 1. And that was with a QB looking up at Brodie Croyle.
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