Keep Playing Thigpen

[Mr. Laz]

i know i'm one of the few ... but i think we should continue to play Thigpen until Croyle is ready to come back.

listen for sec

Thigpen was a 7th round draft pick out of a division 2 school. The school he played at was in their FIRST year of having a football team.

Dude .... it's perfectly understandable for Thigpen to be overwhelmed and a bit scared. He's playing on an offense with a shaky Oline under a coaching staff that's moronic at best.

what do you expect?

even the best QB's lose their accuracy when they are nervous about the pass rush. Ben Rothlisberger turned to complete crap yesterday when he started getting hit.

Thigpen has showed flashes and he's not fragile ... he can run around and get get killed by our offensive ineptitude.

i know it sucks but at least we are developing a solid backup.

and who knows .... when/if he gets over his nervousness and when/if our new offensive lineman improve, he may just pull it together.

how can you blame any QB when he's playing under Herman Edwards .... our coach is a QB killer. He could work for the Grim Reaper he's killed so many NFL Quarterbacks.

just say "no" to Huard and Inglebert humper Martin is a complete unknown and new to the system



patience people, Thigpen should stay in until Croyle comes back.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Laz

i know i'm one of the few ... but i think we should continue to play Thigpen until Croyle is ready to come back.

listen for sec

Thigpen was a 7th round draft pick out of a division 2 school. The school he played at was in their FIRST year of having a football team.

Dude .... it's perfectly understandable for Thigpen to be overwhelmed and a bit scared. He's playing on an offense with a shaky Oline under a coaching staff that's moronic at best.

what do you expect?

even the best QB's lose their accuracy when they are nervous about the pass rush. Ben Rothlisberger turned to complete crap yesterday when he started getting hit.

Thigpen has showed flashes and he's not fragile ... he can run around and get get killed by our offensive ineptitude.

i know it sucks but at least we are developing a solid backup.

and who knows .... when/if he gets over his nervousness and when/if our new offensive lineman improve, he may just pull it together.

how can you blame any QB when he's playing under Herman Edwards .... our coach is a QB killer. He could work for the Grim Reaper he's killed so many NFL Quarterbacks.

just say "no" to Huard and Inglebert humper Martin is a complete unknown and new to the system



patience people, Thigpen should stay in until Croyle comes back.

Your first part of the post perfectly states why he shouldn't start......at least now that reg season games are underway.

People seem to forget that we went 5-3 under Huard in 2006 and was the prime reason why we went to the playoffs that season.

Huard and a decent run game from Johnson and this offense isn't a terrible as people think. Huard gives them the best chance to win.....gives the young players the best chance to develope.

How are our WR's supposed to develope when Thigpen keeps throwing it to the other team??? He is horribly inaccurate. You think overcoming his nervousness is gonna solve his problems?!?!? FACT is this is a completely different game than whats he's ever been used to.

You don't ask 7th rd draft picks you picked up off of Waivers list (this is also someone that couldnt beat out a shitty Tavaris Jackson) to start in reg season games, at least not this early when there is still a lot at stake. This goes the same for letting Hagans take direct snaps which is just a stupid idea to begin with and is silly as clown shit. If I was Kirk Morrison for OAK I would have dropped to the turf when I saw him coming in. There was no use for that play calling and should've shown Clark Hunt that Herm has turned this whole team into a comedy flick.

Is Huard good? No.......is he the best option we have til Croyle gets back.......yes.

Starting Thigpen is like us starting James Killian and see what he has to offer. We didn't draft Killian really thinking he was gonna succeed Trent Green. Thigpen and Killian are projects.....you don't waste reg season games on players like them when they are CLEARLY not ready to do so......especially at the teams most important position, when others are trying to develope as well.

It's the regular season and you have to start your best players......Herm is treating this season (so far) like an extended pre-season.

[Bowser]

We should trade for Trent Green.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Dude he was 1 for 11 for -1 yard and a pick. I could probably accomplish that and have never played quarterback in my life.

Yes, but after the horrible start, which really was a team effort, Pigpen made a game of it for 20 minutes.

Don't mistake me for a Pigpen supporter. On the contrary going into the preseason I felt the biggest mistake by Herm was keeping Huard and Pigpen as the backups to Croyle. I never felt either was worth a roster spot and was actually counter productive when there was other talent available to develop, e.g. Woodson, Martin. I would have been much happier with Culpepper instead of Huard for backup. As a matter of fact I was one of the few on this board that hoped Matt Ryan fell to #5.

But as long as Pigpen is the backup, Croyle is out, and Pigpen continues to improve let him start. Afterall, this is a rebuilding season whether we like it or not.

[Brock]

The Chiefs have no one who's better. So, yeah.

[ElGringo]

The other thing I should mention here is this. If we had a CHANCE IN HELL to come out of this game with a win, I would be all for starting whatever QB would give us that chance. I guess that is one way I would agree with starting Huard, but since I don't believe that chance is there, go with the young guy and see what is there.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Your first part of the post perfectly states why he shouldn't start......at least now that reg season games are underway.

People seem to forget that we went 5-3 under Huard in 2006 and was the prime reason why we went to the playoffs that season.

Huard and a decent run game from Johnson and this offense isn't a terrible as people think. Huard gives them the best chance to win.....gives the young players the best chance to develope.

How are our WR's supposed to develope when Thigpen keeps throwing it to the other team??? He is horribly inaccurate. You think overcoming his nervousness is gonna solve his problems?!?!? FACT is this is a completely different game than whats he's ever been used to.

You don't ask 7th rd draft picks you picked up off of Waivers list (this is also someone that couldnt beat out a shitty Tavaris Jackson) to start in reg season games, at least not this early when there is still a lot at stake. This goes the same for letting Hagans take direct snaps which is just a stupid idea to begin with and is silly as clown shit. If I was Kirk Morrison for OAK I would have dropped to the turf when I saw him coming in. There was no use for that play calling and should've shown Clark Hunt that Herm has turned this whole team into a comedy flick.

Is Huard good? No.......is he the best option we have til Croyle gets back.......yes.

Starting Thigpen is like us starting James Killian and see what he has to offer. We didn't draft Killian really thinking he was gonna succeed Trent Green. Thigpen and Killian are projects.....you don't waste reg season games on players like them when they are CLEARLY not ready to do so......especially at the teams most important position, when others are trying to develope as well.

Starting Huard helps zero towards the future. I would rather see Martin play than Huard. It makes no sense to me why Huard is even on the roster.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by ElGringo

I did notice, and do agree. But that is still a confidence builder. If you continue to throw incomplete/interceptions, you continue to think that is all you can do, and get into a horrible cycle of fear and suck. Herm doesn't exactly help this cycle of suck with his play calling, but maybe we will see something. If he doesn't show anything in the first half against Denver, then I will be ready to give up on him completely. If he shows something, like I said, maybe a solid backup to a true QBoTF

Okay understood. But you need to understand this: This is now different then the TD drive against Oakland. They played soft, he scored and that's probably what got him the start against Atlanta. His success is only translating against soft coverage designed to prevent us from scoring too quickly.

[CosmicPal]

Don't mean to be the party-pooper here, but face it- the season is OVER!

There's not enough talent, and sure as hell no fuggen coaching on this team to get this team into any kind of playoff hunt. So, playing Huard to win is dumb. The way the Donks are playing, they'll take the division, and San Diego will most certainly bounce back. They've lost two games on the last couple of plays.

Play Thiggy until Croyle comes back. Huard doesn't want to play any more, and I can't say I don't blame the guy. I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to get over center for the Chiefs right now.

Cash in your chips and let the season slide. In the off-season, we pick up a couple of solid free-agent Offensive lineman, get a new HC, a new GM, and we start anew with the draft.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by ElGringo

The other thing I should mention here is this. If we had a CHANCE IN HELL to come out of this game with a win, I would be all for starting whatever QB would give us that chance. I guess that is one way I would agree with starting Huard, but since I don't believe that chance is there, go with the young guy and see what is there.

IT'S THE ATL FALCONS!!!!!!........starting Huard would have given us a good chance to win.

[nychief]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

IT'S THE ATL FALCONS!!!!!!........starting Huard would have given us a good chance to win.

you think huard would have dropped 40+ on the birds?

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Starting Huard helps zero towards the future. I would rather see Martin play than Huard. It makes no sense to me why Huard is even on the roster.

You really think Martin/Thigpen/or Hagans is gonna have anything to do with this teams future? IF you do you're reeruned. If Croyle doesn't work out.....we aren't gonna risk seeing what Thigpen can or can't do.....we will go after a QB in the draft, trade for Quinn, or look in FA etc.

There are other young players that are hurting because Thigpen is starting.

There's NO chance of this team getting "BETTER" with him starting.

I know Huard isn't the future....but that doesn't mean just say **** it and start our #3 QB JUST BECAUSE HE's YOUNG and clearly isn't ready.

[teedubya]

Yes! we may lose all 16 games, but then... Herm and Carl will be fired!!! finally!!!!

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by nychief

you think huard would have dropped 40+ on the birds?

I can't say that....but I do think there is a good chance the whole outcome of the game would have been different. We would have scored more than we did.......run defense fell apart terribly.....thats something you can't really predict.

Throwing 3 picks in the first half sure as shit doens't help the defense....and certainly isn't something Huard would have done.

[ShortRoundChief]

just out of curiosity what is the nfl record for consecutive losses?

[morphius]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

just out of curiosity what is the nfl record for consecutive losses?

26, is the first number I found, late 70's Buc's.