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Old 12-14-2008, 03:40 PM  
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I know why it was like that but our crowd is embarrassing

How can it be so empty?

**** you Carl
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Old 12-14-2008, 04:53 PM   #16
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hopefully Clark is taking notice...
Nah...he can't be bothered with the Chiefs (as long as they provide him with a nice paycheck).

He's busy with his true passion...soccer.
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Old 12-14-2008, 04:57 PM   #17
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Clark needs a few more years to assess the situation. Then, and only then, he can promote some cronies from within, thus continuing a tragic cycle of losing culture. But hey, Go MLS!!!!!
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:06 PM   #18
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the stadium needs to be empty. The longer fans fill the stands the longer CP still has a job
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:52 PM   #19
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Hey, the stadium was sold out.

We are stuck with King Carl and Hermfor one more year. We mights as well get used to it.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:00 PM   #20
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Don Banks from SI.com took notice...

"Quite the non-crowd at the Chargers-Chiefs. Every time they showed a shot of the near-empty stands in Kansas City, it looked like Friends and Family day at Arrowhead Stadium.

Not that I don't understand. It was cold. And the Chargers and Chiefs owned a combined seven wins entering play."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:29 PM   #21
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You guys just don't get it.

Empty seats do NOT mean those tickets were not sold.

Clark and Carl made their money before the season ever started, regardless of how many seats are filled come Sunday.

Personally, in this economy, I think people are stupid for no-showing. It doesn't "send a message" other than "I'm willing to throw away $2000-$4000 a season to try to influence management's decisions."

You've already spent the money.

Go.

Go and raise hell.

Go and appreciate the play of the other team.

Get SOMETHING for your money.

Or look like a dumbass trying to prove a point that isn't going to impact anything...
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:31 PM   #22
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You guys just don't get it.

Empty seats do NOT mean those tickets were not sold.
True.

But no shows mean:

Less parking $$$
Less beer $$$
Less food $$$
Less souvenier $$$

It all adds up.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:38 PM   #23
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with the LAMBS blacked out here... it looked truely pathetic at Arrowhead.

and no crowd roar
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:42 PM   #24
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True.

But no shows mean:

Less parking $$$
Less beer $$$
Less food $$$
Less souvenier $$$

It all adds up.
Not to mention not re-upping for next season. Those empty seats indicate it is going to be harder than ever to sell season tickets for next year.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:42 PM   #25
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True.

But no shows mean:

Less parking $$$
Less beer $$$
Less food $$$
Less souvenier $$$

It all adds up.
Over 90% of the parking was paid for in advance as well.

Trust me, what they are losing in concessions is minimal in the grand scheme of things.

To someone like us, a few hundred thousand sounds like a huge loss.

It isn't enough to force Clark's hand.

Don't think for a second that a drop in income wasn't calculated and planned for. If Clark had a problem with it, Carl would have won the power struggle this year, and Clark wouldn't have signed off on Herm and the rebuild.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:43 PM   #26
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Not to mention not re-upping for next season. Those empty seats indicate it is going to be harder than ever to sell season tickets for next year.
I know many of my family members dumped them last year and the rest of us are done with Arrowhead until Carl and Herm are BOTH GONE!!!
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:43 PM   #27
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:45 PM   #28
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Not to mention not re-upping for next season. Those empty seats indicate it is going to be harder than ever to sell season tickets for next year.
That's what everyone said last year as well.

There will be people that don't renew, but not at the rate you expect.

They might lose another 5-10K like they did this year, but the vast majority will keep their seats because they have 20+ years of seniority, and are willing to wait out the darkness to keep that seniority when the team reaches the light.

You guys may not like it, but them's the facts.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:49 PM   #29
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That's what everyone said last year as well.

There will be people that don't renew, but not at the rate you expect.

They might lose another 5-10K like they did this year, but the vast majority will keep their seats because they have 20+ years of seniority, and are willing to wait out the darkness to keep that seniority when the team reaches the light.

You guys may not like it, but them's the facts.
And if I had that much "seniority" and could afford it, I would ride it out as well. I understand that. But the economy in conjunction with the on field product is going to have a big effect on renewals I would guess.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:16 PM   #30
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