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Old 12-29-2008, 02:58 PM  
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810 vs 610 on Thigy

So this afternoon I am driving around and I hear KK going off abou tThigy not being the man and such. Ok, commercial comes so I flip to 610. On 610 they are arguing that Thigy deserves a shot and pointing out the stats pre and post Thigy and such.

You almost wonder if they plan this shit? Anyhow, if KK is so staunch in his opposition of Thigy then I say we definitely need to give Thigy a shot.

So this seems it will be the ongoing argument over the next several weeks. Some people are going to be very pissed off come draft time when we make our first selection.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:54 PM   #16
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You realize both Carolina and the Steelers have a running game and solid defenses. I do not know how a QB, no matter how good he is, is going to win anything without either a solid running game and a solid defense to support him?
Agree to a point.... And its okay to disagree....
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:54 PM   #17
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I can't stand KK, but I'm almost to the point where I can't listen to Neal anymore. "Do you think Tyler Thigpen is the man, yes or no? Give us a call."
"Um, I think he's the man, cause he runs around."
"No, he's never gonna be an NFL QB"
repeat 50 times
Same thing with Herm. "Should Herm be fired, yes or no? Give us a call."
For 4 hours, come on.
I know today is different because there's an expectaion that Herm could be fired but Neal's topics for discussion are so limited. When you listen to shows in other markets people can call in and discuss a variety of topics: baseball, NBA, other football teams in other cities. But for some reason in KC it's "This segment we're talking strictly about ___." It gets tedious.
Yeah, Neal Jones is a fuqtard, no doubt about that. Not that KK is any better...
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:55 PM   #18
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9 of the 12 remaining in the playoffs this year are all 1st round picks...
But it's too risky. There's only a ~50% chance you'll get a Pro Bowl QB with your top five pick.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:55 PM   #19
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TYLER THIGPENS QB RATING IS LOWER THAN JAMARCUS RUSSELL'S!!!

Jeebuz folks, what more needs to be said? His line is better than Oaklands, his offense was better suited for passing than Oakland's, his WRs are better than Oaklands and still JaMarcus Russell had a better season.

JAMARCUS. RUSSELL.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:56 PM   #20
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But it's too risky. There's only a ~50% chance you'll get a Pro Bowl QB with your top five pick.
Scared money don't make money.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:56 PM   #21
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You realize both Carolina and the Steelers have a running game and solid defenses. I do not know how a QB, no matter how good he is, is going to win anything without either a solid running game and a solid defense to support him?
And the Chiefs of the '90s show that the inverse is true, as well.

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Scared money don't make money.
We should just trade down and take a tackle.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:58 PM   #22
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What a frigging disaster they are. Seriously. They're worse than the Lions.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:01 PM   #23
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I can't stand KK, but I'm almost to the point where I can't listen to Neal anymore. "Do you think Tyler Thigpen is the man, yes or no? Give us a call."
"Um, I think he's the man, cause he runs around."
"No, he's never gonna be an NFL QB"
repeat 50 times
Same thing with Herm. "Should Herm be fired, yes or no? Give us a call."
For 4 hours, come on.
I know today is different because there's an expectaion that Herm could be fired but Neal's topics for discussion are so limited. When you listen to shows in other markets people can call in and discuss a variety of topics: baseball, NBA, other football teams in other cities. But for some reason in KC it's "This segment we're talking strictly about ___." It gets tedious.
That's funny because you nailed it.

He does do that crap a lot.

I kinda like Chris & Cowboy's show on 610 from 9-11. Their arguments seem to make more sense to me.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:11 PM   #24
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I'm not a huge fan of KK but I agree with him on his Thigpen and drafting a QB thing.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:13 PM   #25
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What round was Trent Dilfer Drafted in? Hint he was drafted in 1994 by Tampa Bay...
I assume you wil say 1st round. But I would hardly say he was the proverbial 1st round type once he played in the NFL. But I could say, what round was Brady drafted in?
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:14 PM   #26
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I assume you wil say 1st round. But I would hardly say he was the proverbial 1st round type once he played in the NFL. But I could say, what round was Brady drafted in?
It's playing the odds 16 of the last 29 QB's to win a bowl are 1st rounder...6 of the 13 that aren't are accounted for by 2 players.

It's basically a 99% chance that a 1st round pick will win the the bowl this year upping the number again.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:15 PM   #27
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I hate to pile on but Neal Jones is a homer deluxe and not very insightful, when it comes to sports.
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And the Chiefs of the '90s show that the inverse is true, as well.

We should just trade down and take a tackle.
The Chiefs made the mistake of letting Carl dictate that Grbac started instead of Gannon in the playoffs. Otherwise we could of won. Hell even with Bono if the damn kicker makes 2 FG's we win. It can be argued both ways, for sure. But I think if we stick a top rated QB in our offense right now we are going to see our 2nd and 3rd string QB's anyway.

Too many nightmares of our line allowing Huard to get sacked as soon as he took the snap.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:16 PM   #29
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It's playing the odds 16 of the last 29 QB's to win a bowl are 1st rounder...6 of the 13 that aren't are accounted for by 2 players.

It's basically a 99% chance that a 1st round pick will win the the bowl this year upping the number again.
I don't disagree. But odds are just that. I am not saying to ink Thigy as the starter. Just give him a fair shot in the offseason to compete.
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You know why Carl wouldn't draft a QB high right? Picks like that if they don't work out get people fired, he played it safe and then talked up the fear of it so people would buy into it.
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