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Old 01-13-2009, 06:14 PM   #1
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since this whole thread is speculation... what do you guys think Chan's chances are of staying on as OC? Obviously, it depends on the HC. But if it's Schwartz, or Spag, or Hillary Swank big changes are coming. Does Chan stand a chance of surviving the over-haul? Does anyone want him to? Just curious what people are thinking...
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:08 PM   #2
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since this whole thread is speculation... what do you guys think Chan's chances are of staying on as OC? Obviously, it depends on the HC. But if it's Schwartz, or Spag, or Hillary Swank big changes are coming. Does Chan stand a chance of surviving the over-haul? Does anyone want him to? Just curious what people are thinking...
The odds probably aren't terrific, but if ANYBODY survives, it'll be Chan.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:15 PM   #3
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N.Y. Times: Lions candidate Jim Schwartz is the Billy Beane of the NFL

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With the Lions' coaching buzz Monday surrounding Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, we decided to dig up the profile the New York Times did of him in November.

Here's a snippet of Judy Battista's story:

Schwartz, now the defensive coordinator for the Tennessee Titans, (has) an economics degree from Georgetown University, an abiding fascination with statistics and a preference for watching game film over television. That made him a kindred spirit with his first N.F.L. boss, Bill Belichick. But when Schwartz told Belichick his findings from an early N.F.L. research project almost 15 years ago, Belichick said he did not believe him.

“Fumbles are a random occurrence,” Schwartz said he told Belichick. “Being able to get interceptions or not throw interceptions has a high correlation with good teams. But over the course of a year, good teams don’t fumble any more or less than bad teams. Bill didn’t agree. He said, ‘No, good teams don’t fumble the ball.’ But actually, they fumble just as often as bad teams.” ...

Unorthodox thinking like that has earned Schwartz, 42, a reputation as one of the N.F.L.’s leading practitioners of statistical analysis — “Moneyball” for the shoulder-pad set. ... Belichick regards Schwartz as one of the smartest coaches he has been around. ...

But being known as a “stats guy” is not necessarily a compliment, because statistics do not hold the romantic place in football that they do in baseball. Although every coach uses plenty of data — the Titans’ Jeff Fisher tracks how long his team takes to break the huddle — football is unlikely to bestow statistics-driven celebrity on anyone the way the baseball book “Moneyball” did on Billy Beane, the general manager of the Oakland Athletics.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:17 PM   #4
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The odds of a new coach keeping anyone from this current staff is gonna be slim to none...especially after that 2-14.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:33 PM   #5
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The odds of a new coach keeping anyone from this current staff is gonna be slim to none...especially after that 2-14.
yup

and the fact that any competent HC will evaluate the current coaching staff and ask himself "WTF were they thinking hiring these guys"?


I saw a stat during the NYG/Philly game where the Giants D had like 44 sacks...lmao. compared to our, what, 9?

Gun (and the rest for that matter) need to box their sh*t up and remain gone before they get a nasty taunting.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:19 PM   #6
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Jim Schwartz makes case for Lions' coaching job

by Tom Kowalski Monday January 12, 2009, 11:30 PM



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ALLEN PARK -- After making his case to the media to be the Detroit Lions' next coach, Jim Schwartz needed to convince an audience of one: Lions owner William Clay Ford.

Schwartz, who is the first candidate to take part in a second interview with the Lions, said he was scheduled to meet with Ford after his news conference Monday at the team's practice facility.

According to an NFL.com report, Detroit is expected to interview San Diego Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera on Tuesday and also might hold second interviews with New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier and Miami Dolphins assistant head coach Todd Bowles, who also serves as the Dolphins' secondary coach.

Schwartz, 42, has spent 16 years in the NFL, the past eight years as Tennessee's defensive coordinator. He stressed his experience in working under such head coaches as Bill Belichick and Jeff Fisher.

"When you build a team in the NFC North, you've got to be built for January football, for December football," Schwartz said. "You've got to be big and strong and be able to run and stop the run. You're going to play an important game in Green Bay in December, or you're going to play an important game in Chicago in January, or in the Meadowlands. I think you need to be built that way."

Schwartz was with the Titans when Tennessee beat the Lions 47-7 on Thanksgiving Day. When asked what he thought about the Lions' roster, he said: "Obviously, some holes in the roster."

The Lions, who were 0-16 last season, have the first overall pick in the draft.

"The most important position on the team is quarterback, and it's probably time to find a replacement for Bobby Layne," said Schwartz, referring to Detroit's Hall of Fame quarterback from the 1950s. "Quarterback is the trump card of all positions in the NFL. If you've got a great quarterback, you can cover up a lot of other areas on your team. If you don't have a great quarterback, you've got to be really good in a lot of other areas."

Schwartz said if the Lions select a quarterback with that first overall pick -- or any player -- there would be no timetable on when that player might become a starter.
Schwartz's Titans have endured a quarterback controversy with young quarterback Vince Young having his struggles on and off the field and eventually being replaced by veteran Kerry Collins.

"It's hard to be a rookie and start at quarterback in the NFL," Schwartz said. "The biggest thing is that no two quarterbacks are alike. There are some who are ready to play right away and others that aren't. People always ask, when there's a young quarterback, do you play him right away or do you sit him on the bench. The answer is, it depends."

Two NFL teams, the Atlanta Falcons and Miami Dolphins, made drastic turnarounds after dismal seasons last year. Schwartz was careful not to predict too much of a rebound from the Lions' 0-16 season.

"You can't look too far ahead with that," he said. "The message to my team every year when we start training camp is that we have to get better every single day.

The most important thing is this next practice, the most important thing is this next meeting. Every year, we see quotes coming from other teams about the Super Bowl and it's training camp. The way you take care of that is get better in training camp and keep your eye on that. The end will take care of itself.

"The same thing applies if you talk about a quick turnaround, it's probably not going to happen. If you talk about getting better every single day, then you have a chance to be there."
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:20 PM   #7
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John Clayton on ESPN news said that Pioli's first likely coaching candidate would be Ferentz and if HE decides to stay where he's at then Spag's/Schwartz would be the next obvious choices for the same reasons others posted.
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Highlights from Jim Schwartz's press conference

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Jim Schwartz had some interesting things to say at his press conference on Monday.




On what needs to be done: "You build teams to run the football and to stop the run. I know that Ford Field is a great place to play, but I think that when you start a team, particularly in the NFC North, you've got to be built for January football, December football."


On the QB position: "Quarterback is the trump card of all positions in the NFL. If you have a good quarterback, you can cover up a lot of other areas on your team."


On his impressions of the Lions' roster: "Obviously, some holes in the roster. No different, though, than probably half the teams in the NFL at this time of the year."

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Schwartz has been the Titans' defensive coordinator the last eight seasons. A look at how the defense fared the past two:

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Overall293.67291.65
Rushing93.9692.45
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:23 PM   #9
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Schwartz is the complete opposite of Herman. That's a good thing.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:29 PM   #10
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Schwartz is the complete opposite of Herman. That's a good thing.
Yeah a very good thing, hell he proberly even "play's to win the game."
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He seem's to have the smart's.
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IMHO...he is the smartest HC candidate out there.
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Chiefs may throw wrench in Lions' plan

BY NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA
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Now that Scott Pioli has left New England to become Kansas City's general manager, the Lions need to keep an eye on the Chiefs.

Tennessee defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz hasn't interviewed for any other coaching jobs this year, but he could be a candidate for the Chiefs' job. And if the Lions want to hire him, they might want to be careful he doesn't get away.

Schwartz and Pioli once worked together with coach Bill Belichick in Cleveland, and Schwartz talked about their relationship during his media availability Monday at Lions headquarters.

"Scott and I cut our teeth together in Cleveland," Schwartz said. "At the time, we didn’t realize it, but that was an all-star cast, guys working 100 hours a week, living in crappy apartments, making no money, but that made us all who we are in the NFL. Back in ’93 or ’94, and we all have Bill Belichick to thank for that."

By the way, Pioli going to Kansas City gives Lions fans a great point of comparison.

Pioli, who won three Super Bowls with the Patriots, reportedly would have been interested in the Lions' GM job, but owner William Clay Ford chose to keep Martin Mayhew.

The Chiefs are 2-22 in their past 24 games. The Lions are 1-23, but their one victory was over the Chiefs. Pretty even.

Let's see who does better from here on out, Pioli's Chiefs or Mayhew's Lions.
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I gotta admit, I will be Happier with Ferentz or Schwartz over Spagnulo
I Think they should retain Gailey and promote Price and Fire everyonelse even the ball boys and janitor.
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Hire that man! Jim Schwartz could save the Lions from themselves

Posted by Patrick Hayes | It's Just Sports January 13, 2009 12:30PM

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The Lions should hire Jim Schwartz right now.


I was a little less than enthused with Jim Schwartz as a head coaching candidate for the Detroit Lions. After Rod Marinelli was fired, I was hoping for someone, namely New England's Josh McDaniels, with a pedigree on the offensive side of the ball to get the most out of what, at present, are the Lions' only assets: Calvin Johnson and Kevin Smith.

But McDaniels ended up in Denver (and who can blame him?), and, after his second interview yesterday, Schwartz was considered a finalist for the Detroit job.

Without looking at his background much, bringing in a defensive coach to a defense that is not competitive wouldn't seem to be the best move, unless he is bringing Albert Haynesworth with him to plug the middle. But upon further review, Schwartz should have been the candidate all along.

First, he is off the Bill Belicheck coaching tree. So bringing in a disciple of the most successful NFL coach of the last 30 years would be a good start in turning your franchise around, right?

But that is not the best part. I am an avid fan of Moneyball and the impact statistical analysis has had in combating the good ol' boys thinking in baseball. One of the main storylines in the book is that baseball teams have, in the past, often been run by former players or "insiders" with no credentials to run a multi-million dollar business, other than the fact that they "played the game," giving them some type of lifetime membership in an exclusive club.

That should sound familiar to Lions fans. This is what our favorite former Lions team president said when hired in 2001:
"I'm a football player. I'm a football person. That's what I know. Some people say it's shallow, but that's what I'm all about."
It would be nice to have someone in a position of authority with the Lions who says things like this:
With the Titans, Schwartz once encouraged the former offensive coordinator Norm Chow to run more on third-and-short because his research indicated that it was more effective than passing.
Research? In football? That's crazy talk! Give us more of your voodoo, Mr. Schwartz:
"If you ask me, Would you rather have a great fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants guy on Sunday, a guy who can dial up plays and he'd be the best in league, or a guy who is best in the league from Monday to Saturday preparing, I respect the guy who prepares. You're not always going to be rolling 7, 7, 7 and be hot every week. But if you prepare well during the week, you'll be consistent from week to week."
Effe that. Just draft the dude who runs the fastest 40, sit back and wait for the championships to roll in.

Every Lions fan should read the Times article on Schwartz (And read Moneyball too, just for the hell of it. It's awesome). Seriously, having a coach who is that analytical is exactly what this team needs prior to such a critical draft. Hopefully they hire him and hopefully he has Martin Mayhew's ear enough to initiate some positive change.
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