Chiefs Missed this comment from Clark on QBs - Page 2

**the Talking Can** · 01-15-2009, 02:30 PM

just replayed it on 810, from petro interview

Clark talked about the fact that the Patriots drafted a QB almost every year, and went on to say "I'm sure Scott Pioli's teams will draft a QB every year...and we'll hit on one of them and that will be our franchise QB..."

2 obvious points:

1. Clark gets it - we have to have a QB, and we have to draft QBs to find the right one...doesn't mean we'll take one at #3, but it is a clear change from Carl...

2. Thigpen is not our franchise QB

StcChief · 01-15-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

I don't think we'll take one at #3, but I bet in a later round we do.

this. BPA at #3. or trade down.

Basileus777 · 01-15-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Tidbit from a Kiper chat:

Derek (Kansas City, MO): The Chiefs hold the #3 pick and now have a competent GM to use the pick in Scott Pioli. Pioli never used a high draft-pick on a QB in New England, so do you think he will take Matt Stafford with the #3 pick, or address O-line or defense help?

Mel Kiper: If you look at Pioli, Tyler Thigpen was a late round pick and they hit with Brady and Cassel in the late rounds. They have to evaluate Tyler Thigpen. They have needs at DE. They did not make up for the loss of Jared Allen. The WR position, they have Bowe, but they need a little more help. They need help on the second line at LB. In Pioli's case, if he thinks Thigpen is right for the job, then he can address those other positions.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=24555

I don't think you can extrapolate from what happened in New England that Pioli doesn't like to draft QBs high. They had Bledsoe and then Brady, they never had any need to spend a high pick on a QB.

Crybaby Power · 01-15-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Does a good D somehow improve his gross inaccuracy?

No but when you're scoring roughly 24pts a game, with a good defense that usually wins you football games.

Funny how some still dont realize this even after the DV years.

Fritz88 · 01-15-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Does a good D somehow improve his gross inaccuracy?

If our D held on to the 25+ points he helped score every game. i don't think we would be having this conversation.

I really do believe that Flacco is a slightly above average QB and it's his D that's lifting him.

Thig Lyfe · 01-15-2009, 03:03 PM

Thiggy is going to ****ing tear it up next season.

That said, we should draft somebody in case he doesn't.

Rooster · 01-15-2009, 03:05 PM

I would like to draft a QBOTF type and turn Thiggy into a slot receiver ala Wes Welker.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-15-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

If our D held on to the 25+ points he helped score every game. i don't think we would be having this conversation.

I really do believe that Flacco is a slightly above average QB and it's his D that's lifting him.

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Originally Posted by Samoan Power

No but when you're scoring roughly 24pts a game, with a good defense that usually wins you football games.

Funny how some still dont realize this even after the DV years.

Puke

Hammock Parties · 01-15-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Thiggy is going to ****ing tear it up next season.

The KC night life is full of hotties.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-15-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I really do believe that Flacco is a slightly above average QB and it's his D that's lifting him.

Have you seen Flacco's deep ball? Yeah, Thig has wet dreams about it...

Crybaby Power · 01-15-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Thiggy is going to ****ing tear it up next season.

That said, we should draft somebody in case he doesn't.

I agree, just doesnt need to be a top 3 pick. We have other HUGE glaring needs.

Crybaby Power · 01-15-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Have you seen Flacco's deep ball? Yeah, Thig has wet dreams about it...

Flacco has a ****in cannon that even Croyle wish he even had.

That 25-30 yd out pass he threw was ****in nuts. thats pretty much equivalent to darting a ball 45-50 yds

keg in kc · 01-15-2009, 03:11 PM

When he was talking about taking a QB virtually annually, he didn't in any way infer that meant drafting a QB high. He mentioned Pioli finding Brady in the 6th and Cassel in the 7th. I got the impression, in that light, that he was talking about taking a flyer on a mid- to late-round day pick every year, which we've already been doing (well, technically we've been trading for other teams low round draft picks, like Thigpen, Smoker, etc). Hopefully Pioli does a better job at it.

He did, however, state the position is an important one.

As for Thigpen, I doubt Pioli even knows what Pioli thinks about him at this point. Much less has a clue who we're taking at 3.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-15-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoan Power

I agree, just doesnt need to be a top 3 pick. We have other HUGE glaring needs.

Um, QB IS a HUGE glaring need.

The_Doctor10 · 01-15-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Have you seen Flacco's deep ball? Yeah, Thig has wet dreams about it...

Flacco and Thigpen put up almost identical numbers.

Flacco: 257/428, 2971 Yards 14 TD 12 INT 80.3 QB rating
Thigpen: 230/420 2608 Yards 18 TD 14 INT 76.0 QB rating

Thigpen wasn't the starter for half the season. Flacco was a 1st round pick who was the starter coming out of camp. The only real difference between the two of them seems to be that Thigpen can scramble, and Flacco has a deep ball. Based on those two sets of numbers, and Joe Flacco's supporting cast vs Thigpen's, can you really say there's a huge difference between the two?

beavis · 01-15-2009, 04:31 PM

I feel much more comfortable with Pioli drafting a QB in the later rounds than Carl. I think it's safe to say he's proven that they can be found.

01-15-2009, 02:30 PM
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9162208	Missed this comment from Clark on QBs just replayed it on 810, from petro interview Clark talked about the fact that the Patriots drafted a QB almost every year, and went on to say "I'm sure Scott Pioli's teams will draft a QB every year...and we'll hit on one of them and that will be our franchise QB..." 2 obvious points: 1. Clark gets it - we have to have a QB, and we have to draft QBs to find the right one...doesn't mean we'll take one at #3, but it is a clear change from Carl... 2. Thigpen is not our franchise QB
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Rooster Draft a QB Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: JoCo Casino cash: $9951689	I would like to draft a QBOTF type and turn Thiggy into a slot receiver ala Wes Welker. __________________ When Reno Hightower was a prick he was the best damn quarterback in the history of Kern County.
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01-15-2009, 03:11 PM	#27
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	When he was talking about taking a QB virtually annually, he didn't in any way infer that meant drafting a QB high. He mentioned Pioli finding Brady in the 6th and Cassel in the 7th. I got the impression, in that light, that he was talking about taking a flyer on a mid- to late-round day pick every year, which we've already been doing (well, technically we've been trading for other teams low round draft picks, like Thigpen, Smoker, etc). Hopefully Pioli does a better job at it. He did, however, state the position is an important one. As for Thigpen, I doubt Pioli even knows what Pioli thinks about him at this point. Much less has a clue who we're taking at 3.
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beavis Free Born Man of the USA Join Date: May 2003 Casino cash: $9954900	I feel much more comfortable with Pioli drafting a QB in the later rounds than Carl. I think it's safe to say he's proven that they can be found.
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