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Old 02-08-2009, 11:45 PM   #1
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People don't want to look at things rationally.
You were criticizing the Chiefs with this post, weren't you?

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:45 PM   #2
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:30 PM   #3
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It will be a travesty, but I'd be willing to bet that neither Shields nor Gonzo are first-ballot guys.

Evidence A for why the NFL HOF is a bit of a joke.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:31 PM   #4
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It will be a travesty, but I'd be willing to bet that neither Shields nor Gonzo are first-ballot guys.

Evidence A for why the NFL HOF is a bit of a joke.
Gonzo will be first ballot.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:32 PM   #5
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Gonzo will be first ballot.
After what happened with Sharpe who retired with all the records and 3 rings...if Gonzalez retires without ever winning a playoff game I have doubts about it.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:34 PM   #6
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After what happened with Sharpe who retired with all the records and 3 rings...if Gonzalez retires without ever winning a playoff game I have doubts about it.
I don't think playoff success matters quite so much for a TE. Sharpe just isn't as perceived as a dominant player the way Tony is. Tony changed the way the position is played and he has all the records. I think Gonzalez is the one TE the committee won't snub.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:35 PM   #7
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After what happened with Sharpe who retired with all the records and 3 rings...if Gonzalez retires without ever winning a playoff game I have doubts about it.
Right.

Forget SB's. We're talking about a player without a playoff victory.

It's not right, but this will factor into the decision of a lot of voters.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:42 PM   #8
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After what happened with Sharpe who retired with all the records and 3 rings...if Gonzalez retires without ever winning a playoff game I have doubts about it.
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Right.

Forget SB's. We're talking about a player without a playoff victory.

It's not right, but this will factor into the decision of a lot of voters.
Mecca and DeezNutz are correct. Their concerns could hurt Shields' and Gonzo's chances for first ballot.

I'd be pissed, but I don't get a vote.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:39 PM   #9
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Gonzo will be first ballot.
Do you have any opinions, or do you just reveal fact?
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:45 PM   #10
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It's the internet buddy, it's understood that I'm presenting an opinion.

I still think Gonzo will get in first ballot, though it is by no means certain. I think Shields will get in eventually, but first ballot is highly unlikely.
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It's the internet buddy, it's understood that I'm presenting an opinion.

I still think Gonzo will get in first ballot, though it is by no means certain. I think Shields will get in eventually, but first ballot is highly unlikely.
I'm not your buddy, pal.
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Bruce Matthews was a first ballot HOF'er just a year or two ago, and he didn't win anything either. It depends who you're up against sometimes. I don't know who would be in Shields HOF class. There's nothing "irrational" about it.
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Bruce Matthews was a first ballot HOF'er and he didn't win anything either. It depends who you're up against sometimes too. I don't know who would be in Shields HOF class.
You must not know how the HOF committee works.
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You must not know how the HOF committee works.
Come on. You can joke all you want, but there far more evidence to the contrary.

DT in year 5. Sharpe and Carter (again) this year. The selection process is a ****ing joke.
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Come on. You can joke all you want, but there far more evidence to the contrary.

DT in year 5. Sharpe and Carter (again) this year. The selection process is a ****ing joke.
Two words: Randy Gradishar.
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