Gosselin Mock Draft 4/10/09

[Tribal Warfare]

Rick Gosselin's 1st Mock Draft

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Coogs

IIRC, he does two mock drafts. This one, and one a day or two before the draft. the 2nd one he does is usually one of the better indicators of what is actually going to happen on draft day.

One only needs to read.

Here's the first of three mock draft offerings from The Dallas Morning News this month. The second will come next Sunday, and the final mock on the actual day of the draft. The first mock is based on my draft board of the top 32 players, the second focuses more on team need and the third is how I see the draft playing out.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by milkman

One only needs to read.

I have heard reading could be a good thing. I guess I'll have to try it sometime.

[DaneMcCloud]

Gosselin also had Tank Tyler as a mid first-rounder a few weeks before the 2007 draft.

[Mecca]

This mock is based on his personal opinion of the players...remember that, it goes right in line with the Tank Tyler stuff and so forth...

He's like Mayock in this regard his final mock where he actually uses his sources to try to get the picks right will look good but his personal evaluations of the players is pretty mind numbing.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Gosselin also had Tank Tyler as a mid first-rounder a few weeks before the 2007 draft.

So did OTWP, Hamas, and most this board.

In fact, he was one of the guys many on this board HOPED we would draft with our pick.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by doomy3

So did OTWP, Hamas, and most this board.

In fact, he was one of the guys many on this board HOPED we would draft with our pick.

Huh?

I don't recall a single person advocating that the Chiefs draft Tank Tyler with the number 23 pick in 2007.

I'd like to see some proof of that claim.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Huh?

I don't recall a single person advocating that the Chiefs draft Tank Tyler with the number 23 pick in 2007.

I'd like to see some proof of that claim.

Here you go then...

This is from a thread titled, "Identify your dream player in the first round of the 2007 NFL draft!"

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll keep it realistic.

Amobi Okoye or Tank Tyler.

I'd prefer a LT if there's one available, but I doubt it.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Realistically: Levi Brown.

I'd be fine with Ginn, Okoye, Tyler, maybe Pittcock.

I'm also going to pay close attention to Doug Free of NIU in round 2. It would be nice to draft bookend tackles who could be here for a f'ing decade.

This is from another thread:

Originally Posted by bdeg

Jarrett or Tyler would be great(in that order).

Originally Posted by htismaqe

At the end of the day, I think it might be more likely that Tyler will go before Jarrett now...

Also, there was some HEAVY pimping for Jarrett that year. It's funny to see guys like Mecca saying WR's don't need to run 4.3s to be good NFL receivers when it's Jarrett, but yet Crabtree is going to suck.

Originally Posted by Mecca

I find it funny that people that work in the NFL think you need to run 4.3's to be able to play WR in the NFL.

All Jarrett and Rice have ever done is produce now they magically suck because of a few tenths of a second.....um ok.

Originally Posted by Mecca

I just don't understand it, he's a big WR he is not going to blaze out there that's just not how it is. But of course god forbid you don't run a 4.3 as a WR it means you automatically suck.

These are the same people that would tell you Ginn is a great prospect and Jarrett is marginal due to speed and nothing else.

By the way coming from someone who watched USC play anyone who thinks Smith is a better prospect than Jarrett is high on crack.

Also the Sidney Rice thing is ****ing hilarious.........he'll have to rely on his hands his best asset wow, that must suck huh I thought that was what it was all about?

That sounds like a bunch of scouts that got mad he didn't run for them and decided to screw him over by saying he sucks because they were personally mad at him for not running.........great scouting guys.

Originally Posted by Mecca

If the Chiefs take Jarrett the last thing you'll hear is it was a reach........

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think Jarrett still has room to grow but is the most polished of the recievers. He's been a starter on one of the best teams in college football since his true freshman season. He always stepped up and played big in big games.

Dwayne Jarrett from what I know of him isn't anything like Mike Williams. Jarrett looks like he wants to be the best player on the field every time out.

Originally Posted by Mecca

You don't have to burn to be a productive player in this league, Keyshawn Johnson for example.

FWIW, the majority seemed to want us to take Amobi Okoye, Ted Ginn, Jr., Dwayne Jarrett, Patrick Willis (although everyone knew there was no chance he would fall to us), Levi Brown, or Robert Meachum

[bdeg]

I was a big draft noob at that point, still probably am. thanks doomy

[googlegoogle]

he's wrong. Pioli breaks the rules.

[Al Bundy]

Shoot if Michael Oher is available...... Beanie Wells will be awful in the NFL.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Gosselin also had Tank Tyler as a mid first-rounder a few weeks before the 2007 draft.

Originally Posted by doomy3

So did OTWP, Hamas, and most this board.

In fact, he was one of the guys many on this board HOPED we would draft with our pick.

Hmmmm.

Dane's post says " a few weeks before the draft."

Doomy's so-called "evidence" is from the SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY.

Because, you know, nothing changes over 3 months.

[orange]

04-13-2007

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Exactly. See post 59.

You may have misunderstood the sarchasm in my post. Hali was supposedly a reach, but turned out to be a phenomenal pick.

I'm saying Harrell or Tyler could be as well, even though people think they are a reach at 23.

Post 59:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No kidding. This place was at DefCon 4 when he was taken last year.

That's why taking these so called "draft experts" word as gospel is wrong, IMO. Taking a guy a round or two early....that's a reach. Taking a guy 10 picks early.....not so much. Plus, I trust scouting departments over hacks getting paid by ESPN.


The word "reach" is used way too often on this board.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by orange

04-13-2007




Post 59:

Feel free to post the link to the thread so we can all read the context surrounding that post.

And regardless, I could care less what people think. Tyler IS a 1st round talent. He dropped to the 3rd because of off-the-field issues.

[orange]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Feel free to post the link to the thread so we can all read the context surrounding that post.

And regardless, I could care less what people think. Tyler IS a 1st round talent. He dropped to the 3rd because of off-the-field issues.

No problem: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post3902280


There's also this on 04-06-2007: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post3886677

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

As much as everyone would hate it, if Olsen was still there at 23, don't think for a second Carl wouldn't pull the trigger.

I'd replace him with Rice on your list, and add Darrelle Revis, Chris Houston and possibly Carriker or Timmons.

I have a feeling we'll be very surprised with the pick come draft day.....


And re: Tank Tyler, many, many people were talking about him before his workout. Just not here.

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

yeah, before the season then he got totally owned at the Senior Bowl. The man wasn't getting any push at all I saw it myself.

And this from just after the draft: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post3938875

WORST PICKS [3rd round]

Tank Tyler, defensive tackle, Chiefs: The Chiefs have an awful track record with defensive tackles. They've spent high picks on recent years on Ryan Sims, Eddie Freeman, and Junior Savaii, none of whom really produced. Part of the problem is that Carl Peterson and his coaches are too enamored with Combine heroes. Savaii was a bench press hero, and so is Tyler, who benched 225 pounds 42 times at the Combine. Tyler dogged a bit at NC State, but Herm Edwards believes he can reach him, just as Dick Vermeil always believed he could motivate any even the biggest slug. Tyler isn't a major reach in the third round, but he won't solve any problems in Kansas City.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sounds like this guy has a personal thing with the Chiefs.

I'd bet that most "experts" end up calling the Tyler pick a great value.

Where this guy gets off calling Tyler a slug is beyond me. Apparently he hasn't watched him play.

Just because we missed at DT in the DV era doesn't mean we'll miss in the Herm Edwards era.

You were clearly firmly planted on the Tank Tyler bandwagon.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by orange

No problem: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post3902280


There's also this on 04-06-2007: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post3886677









And this from just after the draft: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post3938875







You were clearly firmly planted on the Tank Tyler bandwagon.

Still am.

Like I said, the guy is a 1st round talent. He dropped due to off the field issues. There are several people in that thread that agree with me, and think that write was way off base.

Anything else?