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Old 04-17-2009, 12:40 PM  
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If they do move Hali to OLB in the 3-4, who are they going to have in the trenches. Dorsey isn't really suited to play in the middle in that kind of defense, do they move him outside and put Tyler at NT? And I guess put McBride in the other DE spot? Not that the defensive line can get much worse than last year, but it is still the one spot on the team that I have no idea what they are going to do with.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:28 PM   #16
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No problem...I'm not trying to be a dick, just curious if you had heard something. It's frustrating not knowing for sure...
No prob. If Dorsey has really put on 20+ pounds, and McBride lost 10-15....then I could see them trying what you say. OTOH, I just plugged 'em in, where I thought they fit based on their size/skill sets/role in 3-4....based on what I know as a former coach, albeit at the HS level. You could be right, but like I said....they'll be looking for better fits at DT and DE for the 3-4, than the current roster provides---if for depth and nothing else at this point.

That said, I don't see any of those guys....McBride, Hali, or Dorsey performing at a probowl level at the spots you mention, anytime soon anyway.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:33 PM   #17
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Anyway, even with Dorsey up to 330, if that's true, it would make more sense for Tank to be the NT right now if you ask me.
The way I hear it, Dorsey was upwards of 320 last year, and he's dropping weight to get some of his explosiveness back.

But I have no way of verifying that...
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:13 PM   #18
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If Tamba Hali really plays a standing up OLB position it is going to be one of the saddest and funniest things ever witnessed.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:21 PM   #19
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If Tamba Hali really plays a standing up OLB position it is going to be one of the saddest and funniest things ever witnessed.
I'm not 100% sure. But I think Hali played some standup DE at Penn State.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:22 PM   #20
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I'm not 100% sure. But I think Hali played some standup DE at Penn State.
That's nice and all but it's nothing like playing 3-4 OLB, Tamba Hali isn't even athletic for an end...let alone a guy standing up all the time.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:27 PM   #21
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If Tamba Hali really plays a standing up OLB position it is going to be one of the saddest and funniest things ever witnessed.
What's the chance of moving him inside, and using him as a blitzing ILBer?
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:27 PM   #22
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What's the chance of moving him inside, and using him as a blitzing ILBer?
Truth is, he has no position in a 3-4, if they could trade him for anything they should.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:32 PM   #23
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Truth is, he has no position in a 3-4, if they could trade him for anything they should.
Key being if they could...They'd be lucky to get a 4th out of him right now.
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:12 PM   #24
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Key being if they could...They'd be lucky to get a 4th out of him right now.
I'd take what I could get, it's better than just cutting the guy or watching him make a fool of himself out there.
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:14 PM   #25
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Truth is, he has no position in a 3-4, if they could trade him for anything they should.
You really don't have any idea of what you're talking about here.
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:18 PM   #26
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You really don't have any idea of what you're talking about here.
And here we go someone is gonna tell me Tamba Hali is awesome and super athletic and can play some OLB..

What has he ever done to make anyone remotely believe he can do this?
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:24 PM   #27
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Truth is, he has no position in a 3-4, if they could trade him for anything they should.
Some new footballs and a couple kicking tee's
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:25 PM   #28
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Some new footballs and a couple kicking tee's
Shush, The Guardian, is here to tell us how ****ing awesome Tamba Hali is!
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:30 PM   #29
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And here we go someone is gonna tell me Tamba Hali is awesome and super athletic and can play some OLB..

What has he ever done to make anyone remotely believe he can do this?
You think measurables make great players? Lavar Arrington was an athletic freak. But the guy didn't have the instincts or ability to learn how to breakdown pre-snap offenses worth a crap. Marvin Lewis' words that "Lavar just doesn't get it" basically meant the guy didn't have it upstairs to be an elite player. And he never was.

Second, playing outside backer in the defensive front that the Chiefs are going to run isn't really any different than playing defensive end. Last time I checked he could do that.

This is part of the problem with discussing X's and O's with guys like you. You think you know something, but you really don't. You don't even understand the difference between an over and an under front, a shade, a gap, a technique, or what have you. You think because you heard the term "3-4" defense that Tamba will be playing like an outside linebacker in regards to what Pittsburgh does, but you don't even understand what he'll be asked to do, or that the ends need to be "X amount tall" or "X amount weight". Guys like you say "Curry would be swallowed up by NFL Tackles" when lots of smaller guys rush the passer. You look at the combine and this is what you base your opinion of players on.

Tamba won't be asked to drop into coverage with tight ends man to man, he may be asked to do zone drops, like even defensive tackles do sometimes, and anyone can do that. But Tamba has done a solid job until this past year when he was injured with the same leg injury that held Dwight Freeny to 3.5 sacks just a couple of seasons ago. Tamba will be fine. As will Dorsey.
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That's a really drawn out post to try to say you like Tamba Hali...that's nice I don't, I didn't like him in 4-3 either.
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