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Old 05-17-2009, 08:26 PM  
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According to NFLN KC has had 3 of the top
10 motivational head coaches of all-time.Wow,and 1 piece of hardware to show for it.

10.Bum Phillips
09.Sam Wyche
08.Hank Stram
07.Bill Parcells
06.Bill Cowher
05.George Allen
04.Marty Schottenheimer
03.Jon Gruden
02.Dick Vermeil
01.Vince Lombardi
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:18 PM   #16
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If Dick had DT on his D we would have had mutiple championships.
You could also say that very thing if he had fielded a defense that could stop paraplegics in wheelchairs.

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Old 05-17-2009, 09:20 PM   #17
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You could also say that very thing if he had fielded a defense that could stop paraplegics in wheelchairs.
Or you could say the same thing about Marty, his offenses had trouble scoring in a whore house on 3$ night...
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:24 PM   #18
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You could also say that very thing if he had fielded a defense that could stop paraplegics in wheelchairs.
My point was.... DT won Marty games.... NOT Marty.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:27 PM   #19
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Or you could say the same thing about Marty, his offenses had trouble scoring in a whore house on 3$ night...
Well, I've had enough of debating the suck of both of these guys.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:29 PM   #20
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As far as the Chiefs go, I put him and Dickie-boy in the same doghouse with the exception that Marty fielded a more balanced team when the Chiefs were in the hunt.
It's hard to blame the head coach when your GM whiffs on every single free agent acquisition and draft pick during that era.

I've said it many times... if the Chiefs hit on one or two more free agent acquisitions or draft picks, they would have been to the Super Bowl. The Chiefs' struggles during the Vermeil era were a lot more on Peterson than they were on Vermeil.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:32 PM   #21
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Well, I've had enough of debating the suck of both of these guys.
That was quick...
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:33 PM   #22
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That was quick...
Could'a-Would'a; what's the point?
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:14 PM   #23
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10 motivational head coaches of all-time.Wow,and 1 piece of hardware to show for it.

10.Bum Phillips
09.Sam Wyche
08.Hank Stram
07.Bill Parcells
06.Bill Cowher
05.George Allen
04.Marty Schottenheimer
03.Jon Gruden
02.Dick Vermeil
01.Vince Lombardi
Make that 4 coaches if you want to include Bill Cowher.
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:30 PM   #24
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Say what you will Marty haters, he provided me with many hours of enjoyment with beaucoup primetime and playoff games. He was an automatic ticket to the playoffs. Arrowhead was a really tough place for opponents to play. We haven't had anywhere nearly as good teams since he left.
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:35 PM   #25
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Say what you will Marty haters, he provided me with many hours of enjoyment with beaucoup primetime and playoff games. He was an automatic ticket to the playoffs. Arrowhead was a really tough place for opponents to play. We haven't had anywhere nearly as good teams since he left.
Yeah, I really miss the days when the Chiefs could win just enough regular season games to qualify for the playoffs, then lose their asses in the first round.

Ah, the good ol' days.
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:54 PM   #26
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Say what you will Marty haters, he provided me with many hours of enjoyment with beaucoup primetime and playoff games. He was an automatic ticket to the playoffs. Arrowhead was a really tough place for opponents to play. We haven't had anywhere nearly as good teams since he left.
Holy ****; toads are raining from the sky, and Skip Towne and I agree on something.

Mark this day and hour in your calendars people, this is a Haley's Comet passing by Chiefs Planet.
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:55 PM   #27
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Yeah, I really miss the days when the Chiefs could win just enough regular season games to qualify for the playoffs, then lose their asses in the first round.

Ah, the good ol' days.
And the difference with Vermeil was.......?
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:58 PM   #28
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And the difference with Vermeil was.......?
Vermeil sucked ass.

His "drafts" sent this team back to expansion franchise status.

For future reference, Skip has a hard-on for the Marty years.

Why, I have no idea.
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:16 AM   #29
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Vermeil sucked ass.

His "drafts" sent this franchise back to being an expansion team.
Just wondering if you were a "Vermeil Romanticizer".
Much like a LOT of what Carl did, I took one look at that guy and said "quick-fix". Not that there weren't some great players during his tenure, but he played a real cerebral type of football which just doesn't do a whole hell of a lot for me. Which is a strange juxtaposition because he wore his heart on his sleeve, but his shit was so clinical.

And then there was Herm. Four teams lose by the grace of chance, and all of a sudden it's "happy fun-time" against Indianapolis???? It's "time to get stoked"???

Give me a ****ing break.

Chiefs fans settle for far too little. I'm glad Pioli and Haley are the kind of guys who don't, because this fan base doesn't need its hand held like a toddler on the road to understanding what it should expect; it needs a bitch-slap.
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You'll find that from the beginning, I was completely against Vermeil and engaged in several heated debates.

Many of which (unfortunately), got really ugly.
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