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**DaFace** · 09:01 AM

One of the things I personally struggle with the most when it comes to moderation around here is the issue of racial slurs. Racial slurs range from the obvious (e.g., the "n" word) to the relatively innocuous (e.g., "cracker"). It's tough to tell where to draw the line.

So, here's a poll to help me better understand how people feel. There are thousands of words that could be construed as racial slurs out there, so this won't be a comprehensive list. But it'll cover most of the common ones that seem to crop up here and there.

I'll also mention that this poll has nothing to do with what appropriate action there might be for people using them. There will always be a lot of room for interpretation. The poll is merely to help me understand the range of feelings about the topic.

MOhillbilly · 06-30-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Every word uttered has a context.

Calling someone a person of Hispanic heritage with joviality has different ramifications than calling someone a Canadian* with malice.

* - in some circles, people have taken to using Canadian as code for the n word.

round here they use monday for the n word.

nobody likes a monday.

**DaFace** · 06-30-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

Funny you ask. Just yesterday, I was coon huntin from my truck. Another truck goes in front of my and kicks up some rocks. I end up getting a small chink in the windshield so I pullover. Low and behold, there is an embankment there and I fall down it and into the water. I climb up the hill, person of Hispanic heritage and all, and head to the truck. I grab a towel for my head and head back to town. I am now famished. I go into the convenience store, towelhead and all person of Hispanic heritageed, and ask for something to eat. All these monkeys have are cheese and crackers. What a morning.

Yeah, that's the issue with just filtering them out. "The Man" jacks are another good example.

Garcia Bronco · 06-30-2009, 09:07 AM

Race can mean many different things. Race can be defined by political borders, geographical areas, membership, and genetics. Under the broad definition of Race we could classify members of CP as a race. So to answer you question it depends on who is saying and who is hearing it and perception.

**Shaid** · 06-30-2009, 09:22 AM

It depends on how it is used. Sometimes it can be part of a joke and not particularly insulting. Then again, some people are insulted no matter how it's used.

BigVE · 06-30-2009, 09:22 AM

The older I get the more I come to realize that there are a lot more racist people in this world than I once thought. Racism and bigotry are enmeshed throughout our society in one way or another and most times it goes unnoticed by the "offender". Other times a certain learned or taught way of speaking is passed on from person to person that when spoken is offensive whether the person is actually racist or not. For example(s): my dad is/was a Vietnam vet so "gook" was regular part of his language...sure enough I picked it up too. It wasn't until I was in high school that I realized what I was saying was offensive to some. I STILL have a tendency to use this word when I see anyone of the asian persuasion and if they heard me say it they would most certainly think I was a racist bigot or something. I have raised my kids to most certainly NOT be prejudiced but I still scold them from time to time for things they say...mostly things they hear from their primarily white and semi-racist classmates at school.

**The Franchise** · 06-30-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

If you're going to classify one of those words as racial slurs, they all should be. In the name of equality and all.

This.

**Shaid** · 06-30-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

You all can have fun with the list I used to help fill in the poll here if you'd like. There are a ton I'd never even heard of!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

Here's another one.

http://www.rsdb.org/

Jilly · 06-30-2009, 09:26 AM

I would say if you have a question about it, then it is one.

Katipan · 06-30-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

I have no problem with racial slurs. If you are using them here, you are an idiot, a bigot, and a loser. We are all here by our own free will right? We can all turn our computers off right? We can all choose to ignore any poster we want no? Personally, I wouldn't have any list of banned racial slurs. Of course think everythink is over regulated and pussified (is that banned) these days.

I like this post.

Deberg_1990 · 06-30-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jilly

I would say if you have a question about it, then it is one.

This. If you have to stop and think about it before you say or type it, its probably going to offend someone.

Jilly · 06-30-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaid

It depends on how it is used. Sometimes it can be part of a joke and not particularly insulting. Then again, some people are insulted no matter how it's used.

There are other ways to joke around and there are other ways to speak. Why, would it EVER be necessary to use a word that could be hurtful to another human being, whether used in a joking way or not? Why can't we just elevate ourselves to another level of being so that when we use words we use them in a manner that is respectful. Why is it SO hard and SO offensive to people to actually ask that we speak in a manner that is aware of others and their feelings?

I'm not picking on you, I just think this conversation is one that we shouldn't even be having. If it can be thought of as offensive, why use it when there is SO much more language out there that is not offensive?

Frazod · 06-30-2009, 09:33 AM

Context is everything. The racists who infest this place know how to make their point whether they use these words or not.

For example, when vailpass asks Taco John when he'll be by to mow his lawn, anybody who isn't an idiot knows the meaning behind that remark. Of course, "mow" and "lawn" aren't slurs, so the above statement isn't considered a slur - instead it's just a small part of another fun-filled day in patteeu's happy little playground (otherwise known as DC).

**ChiTown** · 06-30-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jilly

I'm not picking on you, I just think this conversation is one that we shouldn't even be having. If it can be thought of as offensive, why use it when there is SO much more language out there that is not offensive?

In our little PC world, there isn't much left that isn't offensive to somebody or some group.

Simply Red · 06-30-2009, 09:35 AM

Just cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 06-30-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

Just cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks

So you want people to be jewish with their anti-Semetic remarks?

View Poll Results: For the purposes of CP moderation, which should be considered racial slurs?
person of Hispanic heritage	22	14.29%
Chink	91	59.09%
Coon	97	62.99%
Cracker	66	42.86%
Gook	92	59.74%
Honky	53	34.42%
Jap	59	38.31%
Kike	90	58.44%
Monkey	62	40.26%
N***er	111	72.08%
Raghead	75	48.70%
Towelhead	73	47.40%
person of Hispanic heritage	95	61.69%
Whitey	54	35.06%
None of the above	39	25.32%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 154. You may not vote on this poll

06-30-2009, 08:52 AM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1476899	Your opinion: racial slurs One of the things I personally struggle with the most when it comes to moderation around here is the issue of racial slurs. Racial slurs range from the obvious (e.g., the "n" word) to the relatively innocuous (e.g., "cracker"). It's tough to tell where to draw the line. So, here's a poll to help me better understand how people feel. There are thousands of words that could be construed as racial slurs out there, so this won't be a comprehensive list. But it'll cover most of the common ones that seem to crop up here and there. I'll also mention that this poll has nothing to do with what appropriate action there might be for people using them. There will always be a lot of room for interpretation. The poll is merely to help me understand the range of feelings about the topic. Last edited by DaFace; 06-30-2009 at 09:01 AM..
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06-30-2009, 09:07 AM	#18
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $4843136	Race can mean many different things. Race can be defined by political borders, geographical areas, membership, and genetics. Under the broad definition of Race we could classify members of CP as a race. So to answer you question it depends on who is saying and who is hearing it and perception.
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06-30-2009, 09:22 AM	#19
Shaid Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $2675783	It depends on how it is used. Sometimes it can be part of a joke and not particularly insulting. Then again, some people are insulted no matter how it's used.
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06-30-2009, 09:22 AM	#20
BigVE Veteran Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: centralKs Casino cash: $10005250	The older I get the more I come to realize that there are a lot more racist people in this world than I once thought. Racism and bigotry are enmeshed throughout our society in one way or another and most times it goes unnoticed by the "offender". Other times a certain learned or taught way of speaking is passed on from person to person that when spoken is offensive whether the person is actually racist or not. For example(s): my dad is/was a Vietnam vet so "gook" was regular part of his language...sure enough I picked it up too. It wasn't until I was in high school that I realized what I was saying was offensive to some. I STILL have a tendency to use this word when I see anyone of the asian persuasion and if they heard me say it they would most certainly think I was a racist bigot or something. I have raised my kids to most certainly NOT be prejudiced but I still scold them from time to time for things they say...mostly things they hear from their primarily white and semi-racist classmates at school. __________________ Meh.
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06-30-2009, 09:26 AM	#23
Jilly MVP Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $10004925	I would say if you have a question about it, then it is one.
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06-30-2009, 09:33 AM	#27
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2575085	Context is everything. The racists who infest this place know how to make their point whether they use these words or not. For example, when vailpass asks Taco John when he'll be by to mow his lawn, anybody who isn't an idiot knows the meaning behind that remark. Of course, "mow" and "lawn" aren't slurs, so the above statement isn't considered a slur - instead it's just a small part of another fun-filled day in patteeu's happy little playground (otherwise known as DC).
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06-30-2009, 09:35 AM	#29
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	Just cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks
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