Football Stafford Nuthuggers - Page 2

Bill Lundberg · 08-23-2009, 09:16 AM

I'm watching the Detroit/Cleveland game right now on NFLN and he looks absolutely awful. Final stat line was 5/13 for 34 yards and 1 INT. Cassel looks leaps and bounds better right now.

**DeezNutz** · 08-23-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

I'm not saying he won't be good, I just don't think any rookie QB was right for us at this point.

Why?

When would the right time have been?

When we had more time to spend high-round draft picks on the O-line, like we did with Cassel, who has a wealth of collegiate and professional experience?

Bill Lundberg · 08-23-2009, 09:43 AM

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What point would that be?

The point where we have a shitty O-line and receivers who can't catch a cold. It's just my opinion if you disagree that's quite alright.

milkman · 08-23-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

The point where we have a shitty O-line and receivers who can't catch a cold. It's just my opinion if you disagree that's quite alright.

Maybe you got it right, but I thought his question was at what point would be the right time to draft a first round QB?

Mr. Krab · 08-23-2009, 09:48 AM

Well this should bring out the Dirty Sanchez crew.

Bill Lundberg · 08-23-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Maybe you got it right, but I thought his question was at what point would be the right time to draft a first round QB?

When you have the tools necessary to help him succeed (ie solid line and decent running game/receivers)?

Deberg_1990 · 08-23-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

When you have the tools necessary to help him succeed (ie solid line and decent running game/receivers)?

Oh boy....

You do realize that most teams drafting a QB high never have the tools right away to help their franchise QB out?

There is a reason they are drafting top 5 or top 3.

milkman · 08-23-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

When you have the tools necessary to help him succeed (ie solid line and decent running game/receivers)?

So every successful first round QB had the tools to succeed already when they were drafted?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-23-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Oh boy....

You do realize that most teams drafting a QB never have the tools right away to help their franchise QB out?

There is a reason they are drafting top 5 or top 3.

The Cowboys should have waited instead of drafting Aikman.

I mean, they ruined him. All those sacks, a 1-15 season.

**DeezNutz** · 08-23-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

When you have the tools necessary to help him succeed (ie solid line and decent running game/receivers)?

How many great QBs have been the final piece of the puzzle?

Peyton Manning is the model. When an elite talent, who plays the most important position on the field, is available, you take him. In a second.

It's the very definition of a cornerstone.

Bill Lundberg · 08-23-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Oh boy....

You do realize that most teams drafting a QB high never have the tools right away to help their franchise QB out?

There is a reason they are drafting top 5 or top 3.

True. Detroit however has arguably one of the best receivers in the league, a decent O-line and they went out and drafted the best tight end in the draft as well. Who knows, had we taken Sanchez maybe Pioli would have been more active in drafting/adding the pieces around him. I don't think there is a sure fire "right" way to do it, but I agree with the Chiefs choice to get Cassel and still have the high pick to help shore up the defense.

Edit: I don't think Stafford or Sanchez were the prospects Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman were.

milkman · 08-23-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

True. Detroit however has arguably one of the best receivers in the league, a decent O-line and they went out and drafted the best tight end in the draft as well. Who knows, had we taken Sanchez maybe Pioli would have been more active in drafting/adding the pieces around him. I don't think there is a sure fire "right" way to do it, but I agree with the Chiefs choice to get Cassel and still have the high pick to help shore up the defense.

So what you're saying is that it's more practical to get Cassel killed than a rookie QB?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-23-2009, 09:59 AM

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So what you're saying is that it's more practical to get Cassel killed than a rookie QB?

Dammit. Beat me to it.

Bill Lundberg · 08-23-2009, 10:02 AM

I guess I'm saying Cassel has a better chance of not getting killed due to his experience last year. I thought I made it clear that I'm not saying one way is right or wrong. Man you guys are a bunch of vultures!

OctoberFart · 08-23-2009, 10:06 AM

Wow you guys are a bunch of overreaction emotional trainwrecks. You all but straight out called him a bust when he has thrown what maybe 25 preseason passes? Bunch of morons it's so early to say anything other than he had a crap game for a crap team.

**Reaper16** · 08-23-2009, 10:08 AM

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Wow you guys are a bunch of overreaction emotional trainwrecks. You all but straight out called him a bust when he has thrown what maybe 25 preseason passes? Bunch of morons it's so early to say anything other than he had a crap game for a crap team.

1 poster = "a bunch?"

08-23-2009, 09:16 AM
Bill Lundberg American Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004925	Stafford Nuthuggers I'm watching the Detroit/Cleveland game right now on NFLN and he looks absolutely awful. Final stat line was 5/13 for 34 yards and 1 INT. Cassel looks leaps and bounds better right now.
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08-23-2009, 10:02 AM	#28
Bill Lundberg American Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004925	I guess I'm saying Cassel has a better chance of not getting killed due to his experience last year. I thought I made it clear that I'm not saying one way is right or wrong. Man you guys are a bunch of vultures!
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08-23-2009, 10:06 AM	#29
OctoberFart Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10006091	Wow you guys are a bunch of overreaction emotional trainwrecks. You all but straight out called him a bust when he has thrown what maybe 25 preseason passes? Bunch of morons it's so early to say anything other than he had a crap game for a crap team.
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