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Old 09-28-2009, 06:50 AM  
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We are ***OFFICIALLY*** the worst team in the NFL.

The Lions won today. The Raiders beat us in our home opener and couldn't have looked worse today. Who's left?..Bueller....Buelller...Thats right it's us.

Thats the reality. How'd we get from being one of the top teams in 2003 to the worse in 6 years? IMHO,

Talent.

It's obvious to anyone that our problem is talent. We are deficient in talent at just about every position.

Drafting Decisions:
King Carl after Marty left and then Dick Vermiel had horrible drafts that we are paying for now. I had so many King Carl must go threads and rants on here, people were pissed off by the number. King Carl was fired so at least we are moving on.

I'll withhold judgement on Pioli until we see if Cassell and Jackson pan out. Cassell is running for his life. He showed some passion at home last week. That was one beautiful throw to the corner of the end zone. Lots of potential upside. Many a defensive lineman has been just okay in their first few years in the league and then became studs. It's rare that a DL makes a impact right away. So we just have to wait for a final decision on Jackson.

Free Agency decisions.:
Again, King Carl whiffed on so many, it would be impossible to detail all those poor decision here. But, I think we are all in agreement that he sucked the big one in this catagory also.

I don't remember any FA that we let go to another team that could have helped us this off season. Any pickups that could have turned around the team this year. Woudn't have mattered this year. Again, Pioli gets a pass this year from me for FA decisions, but not next year.

I can't blame Haley for this mess. Lombardi and Parcells couldn't make this team a winner with this talent level. Pioli can't make the team a winner in one off season. Maybe Haley can't coach or run a team. but with this serious lack of talent how can we judge him after 3 games that he sucks?

If we don't see a vast effort to improve the talent on the team this off season, then I'll join the chorus of "off with their heads". but for now I'll just suffer on a weekly basis seeing this once proud team reduced to being the worst team in football.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:23 AM   #16
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I expect to be better than a few of those teams by the end of the year, especially the Raiders as I think we have more upside.
I honestly would love to hear why, this might be the least talented team I have ever seen, there are no playmakers anywhere.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:28 AM   #17
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:29 AM   #18
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Actually in the first two games we were only one or two plays and 5 penalties away from a win. Game three was a different story, but stopping the penalties will go a long way towards getting us a win.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:29 AM   #19
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I expect to be better than a few of those teams by the end of the year, especially the Raiders as I think we have more upside.
I agree. I don't think we will be the worst team in football at the end of the year. You give Cassell some time to throw and some better recievers, he will be able to deliver the ball.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:34 AM   #20
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I honestly would love to hear why, this might be the least talented team I have ever seen, there are no playmakers anywhere.
Well, I think the Raiders have such a terrible QB that I have a hard time seeing us losing to them twice.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:35 AM   #21
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This is what happens when you are one of the worst teams in the NFL the previous year, and get worse over the off season. So, I don't understand why anyone is surprised. If anyone opened their eyes, they could see this coming all offseason.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:36 AM   #22
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:37 AM   #23
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I think the Browns are worse than we are at this point. Barely....
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:37 AM   #24
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What I don't get is how we were better last year w/ Herm coaching_ Thigpen at QB, and only playing very young players in an effort to develop them early.

Now we have Cassel, a bunch of older veterans, and Arrowhead on lockdown, but we got worse.

Last year we had close losses against decent teams. Now we're just getting blown the **** out.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:38 AM   #25
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The Raiders have been drafting too high for too long not to be better than they are. So I'll say the Raiders should have better talent and so are worse.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:40 AM   #26
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The Lions won today. The Raiders beat us in our home opener and couldn't have looked worse today. Who's left?..Bueller....Buelller...Thats right it's us.

Thats the reality. How'd we get from being one of the top teams in 2003 to the worse in 6 years? IMHO,

Talent.

It's obvious to anyone that our problem is talent. We are deficient in talent at just about every position.

Drafting Decisions:
King Carl after Marty left and then Dick Vermiel had horrible drafts that we are paying for now. I had so many King Carl must go threads and rants on here, people were pissed off by the number. King Carl was fired so at least we are moving on.

I'll withhold judgement on Pioli until we see if Cassell and Jackson pan out. Cassell is running for his life. He showed some passion at home last week. That was one beautiful throw to the corner of the end zone. Lots of potential upside. Many a defensive lineman has been just okay in their first few years in the league and then became studs. It's rare that a DL makes a impact right away. So we just have to wait for a final decision on Jackson.

Free Agency decisions.:
Again, King Carl whiffed on so many, it would be impossible to detail all those poor decision here. But, I think we are all in agreement that he sucked the big one in this catagory also.

I don't remember any FA that we let go to another team that could have helped us this off season. Any pickups that could have turned around the team this year. Woudn't have mattered this year. Again, Pioli gets a pass this year from me for FA decisions, but not next year.

I can't blame Haley for this mess. Lombardi and Parcells couldn't make this team a winner with this talent level. Pioli can't make the team a winner in one off season. Maybe Haley can't coach or run a team. but with this serious lack of talent how can we judge him after 3 games that he sucks?

If we don't see a vast effort to improve the talent on the team this off season, then I'll join the chorus of "off with their heads". but for now I'll just suffer on a weekly basis seeing this once proud team reduced to being the worst team in football.
Sorry dude. I got nothin.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:42 AM   #27
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I would say we are the 3rd worst team.

Cleveland and Tampa are defniitely worse.

Fine with me. Bring on Berry.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:44 AM   #28
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and we get the browns at home later in the year, so see there is hope
For them or us?
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:45 AM   #29
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I would say we are the 3rd worst team.

Cleveland and Tampa are defniitely worse.

Fine with me. Bring on Berry.
They might be.

But "definitely" is going too far. If we're better, it's by a ****ing fraction.
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