Chiefs What would you have done today? - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 10-18-2009, 08:31 PM

40 seconds left, ball at the Washington 5 yard line, 4th down, up by 3.

Would you:

a) attempt the field goal to go up by 6, with the risk of a blocked field goal or a kickoff return for a touchdown?

or

b) run a wide run or other time-consuming play with the hope of either scoring or running off some time and giving the ball to Washington backed up deep in their territory?

RJ · 10-18-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You all weren't scared stiff of a blocked field goal or a kickoff return? I was.

What?????

Why so pessimistic?

**chefsos** · 10-18-2009, 08:47 PM

Redskins were out of timeouts, but the clock stops on change of possession, I believe, if the wide run doesn't result in a score. Plus, the danger of a fumble at this point is roughly equal to that of a blocked FG attempt. So, I kick the FG.

**Bearcat** · 10-18-2009, 08:49 PM

When your opponent has basically done nothing on offense all day, besides one long run, you kick the FG.

If they block the FG, it's probably still a long field, and you don't kick it deep so there's not much of a chance that it'll get returned.

**rockymtnchief** · 10-18-2009, 08:52 PM

Coach · 10-18-2009, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You all weren't scared stiff of a blocked field goal or a kickoff return? I was.

There is that probability, yes.

But you should also consider that if, KC didn't pick up the first down, that's a huge momentum changer. And Washington only needs 3 points to force the game into OT.

So you take the 3 points, and kick it off. The KO's coverage have been pretty splendid, and Washington's offense isn't really something to be feared of. Plus, it forces Washington to score a TD + an XP in order for them to win it.

The wildcard was, was Clancy going to play prevent, or is he just going to line it up normally? Thankfully, we didn't have to find out long, due to the safety.

smittysbar · 10-18-2009, 09:02 PM

Kick it

**Rain Man** · 10-18-2009, 09:04 PM

Hey, somebody else picked my option!

**cdcox** · 10-18-2009, 09:04 PM

I don't like giving them the ball back with only a FG lead.

lostcause · 10-18-2009, 09:06 PM

The extra 15-20 yards you make Washington go to get a TD instead of a FG versus the extra 5-7 seconds run off by a running play is a win. The concept of this team winning in OT on the road is still hard to grasp, though improving with the play of our MVP kicker.

10-18-2009, 09:08 PM

you can always try to run or throw a touchdown, but if you know you can make it, why not attempt it?

Coach · 10-18-2009, 09:13 PM

I should also point out that our kicker has been very good thus far. It's kinda a strange feeling, knowing that you have a very good kicker who can make the kicks (small sample size) that is needed.

Granted, one was blocked (Dallas game), but I think that was more of the poor line protection.

Thig Lyfe · 10-18-2009, 09:14 PM

Get the touchdown. If you kick the field goal, you force them to score a touchdown... which against this defense, they usually will. If you score a touchdown, you put it away, and if you miss, their offense will play more conservatively knowing they only need a FG to tie. By going for the TD, you give yourself more of a chance to win either right then or in OT.

But the way they did it was good, too.

**Reaper16** · 10-18-2009, 09:17 PM

FG. Not even Clancy's prevent would have allowed for enough time for the Skins to come alive and go the length of the field for the TD.

**Buehler445** · 10-18-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You all weren't scared stiff of a blocked field goal or a kickoff return? I was.

I kick the Field Goal. A blocked kick (low probability), as long as they don't return it, is about the same as missing on the TD (probable). Our kick coverage has been very good, so I'll let it ride.

If you miss the TD, they don't have to go nearly as far down the field and bomb a 60 yard soul crushing FG to go to overtime and beat our asses.

**HemiEd** · 10-18-2009, 10:11 PM

Marty kicked the field goal, against the bears in that exact situation. The Bears went the length of the field, and scored to win.

It cost the Chiefs home field that year, and they had to go play the AFC Championship game in Buffalo.

View Poll Results: Which would you do in the situation below?
A. Kick the field goal.	70	84.34%
B. Run a time-consuming play.	5	6.02%
C. Punt, because you play to win the game.	4	4.82%
D. I would've done something else.	1	1.20%
E. I would've done nothing. I freeze in pressure situations.	3	3.61%
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10-18-2009, 08:31 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-682449 VARSITY	What would you have done today? 40 seconds left, ball at the Washington 5 yard line, 4th down, up by 3. Would you: a) attempt the field goal to go up by 6, with the risk of a blocked field goal or a kickoff return for a touchdown? or b) run a wide run or other time-consuming play with the hope of either scoring or running off some time and giving the ball to Washington backed up deep in their territory?
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10-18-2009, 08:47 PM	#17
chefsos Fifty eight sixty two... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Felton, DE Casino cash: $8257676	Redskins were out of timeouts, but the clock stops on change of possession, I believe, if the wide run doesn't result in a score. Plus, the danger of a fumble at this point is roughly equal to that of a blocked FG attempt. So, I kick the FG.
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10-18-2009, 08:49 PM	#18
Bearcat Would an idiot do that? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $-1075069	When your opponent has basically done nothing on offense all day, besides one long run, you kick the FG. If they block the FG, it's probably still a long field, and you don't kick it deep so there's not much of a chance that it'll get returned.
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10-18-2009, 09:06 PM	#24
lostcause Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $9609965	The extra 15-20 yards you make Washington go to get a TD instead of a FG versus the extra 5-7 seconds run off by a running play is a win. The concept of this team winning in OT on the road is still hard to grasp, though improving with the play of our MVP kicker.
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10-18-2009, 09:14 PM	#27
Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	Get the touchdown. If you kick the field goal, you force them to score a touchdown... which against this defense, they usually will. If you score a touchdown, you put it away, and if you miss, their offense will play more conservatively knowing they only need a FG to tie. By going for the TD, you give yourself more of a chance to win either right then or in OT. But the way they did it was good, too.
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10-18-2009, 10:11 PM	#30
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-509436	Marty kicked the field goal, against the bears in that exact situation. The Bears went the length of the field, and scored to win. It cost the Chiefs home field that year, and they had to go play the AFC Championship game in Buffalo.
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