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**petegz28** · 12-26-2009, 09:35 PM

I am looking to get 2 firearms, 1 for CCW and another for an assault type shotgun.

For the CCW I am thinking a .380. What is a good one that won't break me but won't **** up when I need it?

For the shotgun, what do you reccomend that is reasonable on the pocket book?

Thanks in advance

tmax63 · 12-27-2009, 08:47 AM

I have a cheap little 380 (Lorcinco I think) I keep around the house and for CC it's very capable. Momma also likes it because it's softer to shoot than my 40. For the 5 yd and under range it does fine.

roman gnome · 12-27-2009, 09:23 AM

Just my opinion, but for carry you might check out a Glock 19 or one of Glock's compact models.

Never on the cheap side but always reliable and very easy to carry w/15 rounds or more.

Like everyone you'll most likely try a few different guns before finding one made just for you. Good luck.

I'm partial to Winchester 1300's for riot guns.YMMV

**Bwana** · 12-27-2009, 10:06 AM

It looks like you have a lot of solid advise on the pistol. As far as the shotgun, it
demends what you have to spend. If it's a lot, I like the Benelli M4. You can buy a lot of extras for it as well.
http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli_m4.php

They don't give those away though, so if you want to keep the price down, you may want to consider a Remington 870 with the 20 inch barrel and the extended tube. You can also buy a lot a extras for that as well.

**Bwana** · 12-27-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

For the shotty - Mossberg 590a1 Adjustable Stock 6 shot

http://www.mossberg.com/products/def...ction=products

*edit - This shotgun MAY NOT be reasonable on the pocketbook. Heh

That is a solid gun as well.

As far as the pistol. I would at least step up to a 9mm. I pack a glock 20, 10mm, with 15 round clips, with lots of extras, and some hard hitting ammo. It can be a pain to conceal at times though, because of the size.

Bigoldchieffan turned me onto Doubletap ammo, http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php which I bought for the back country, in the event I encounter a dust up with a grizzly. (BOCF knows his stuff) They also make very some hard hitting "human rounds" as does Dakota ammo with their Corbon rounds. http://www.dakotaammo.net/

Both make very high dollar ammo, so you won't be taking it "plinking," but they are great to have in the gun, in the event poo hits the fan.

Dayze · 12-27-2009, 10:36 AM

for CC i would go with .40 or bigger.

but, if you want 9mm, I would look at a compact Springfield XD-9. I have the full size model, and it's a great pistol; and quite a bit cheaper than Glock.

I think a 9mm would be fine with the right ammo, and proficient shot.

Dayze · 12-27-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

That is a solid gun as well.

As far as the pistol. I would at least step up to a 9mm. I pack a glock 20, 10mm, with 15 round clips, with lots of extras, and some hard hitting ammo. It can be a pain to conceal at times though, because of the size.

Bigoldchieffan turned me onto Doubletap ammo, http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php which I bought for the back country, in the event I encounter a dust up with a grizzly. (BOCF knows his stuff) They also make very some hard hitting "human rounds" as does Dakota ammo with their Corbon rounds. http://www.dakotaammo.net/

Both make very high dollar ammo, so you won't be taking it "plinking," but they are great to have in the gun, in the event poo hits the fan.

my brother in law carries this as his back up/secondary gun. sweet gun.

Dayze · 12-27-2009, 10:42 AM

this is the sub-compact - which is smaller than the compact. I think my full-size barrel is 4"?...not sure what the compact is. but this woudl give you an idea on size. The compact would be slightly larger than this.
I also like my XD-9 because of the safety features. Trigger safety, grip safety; cocking pin indicator on the back of the slide, and loaded chamber indicator on top of the slide. My wife can look at the gun, and determine it's 'hot'. (although she always considers it hot, until she drops the magazine and locks the slide open).

**petegz28** · 12-27-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

That is a solid gun as well.

As far as the pistol. I would at least step up to a 9mm. I pack a glock 20, 10mm, with 15 round clips, with lots of extras, and some hard hitting ammo. It can be a pain to conceal at times though, because of the size.

Bigoldchieffan turned me onto Doubletap ammo, http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php which I bought for the back country, in the event I encounter a dust up with a grizzly. (BOCF knows his stuff) They also make very some hard hitting "human rounds" as does Dakota ammo with their Corbon rounds. http://www.dakotaammo.net/

Both make very high dollar ammo, so you won't be taking it "plinking," but they are great to have in the gun, in the event poo hits the fan.

Mu father in law used to carry some hard hitting, people killers. He repos houses and never knows what or who is going to be in the house when he goes in. He switched over to just plain old fmj's. He said if he shoots someone, because of the laws now and such, he is afraid to rip them in half and such. Make some sense I guess.

Dante84 · 12-27-2009, 05:24 PM

Out of curiosity....

Hunting aside, Policeman/Soldiers/Bodyguards aside...

How many of you average joe citizens have had the need to shoot someone before? Or even wave it around at a would be perp for intimidation/protection purposes?

Just wondering whether the desire to have guns fits the need to have them. Im not a hippy or anything, I guess I don't understand the need for a suped up auto-shotty? Are you expecting some army to target you and, if need be, you can go all Chuck Norris/Steven Segal/Tim Tebow on their asses?

**petegz28** · 12-27-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Out of curiosity....

Hunting aside, Policeman/Soldiers/Bodyguards aside...

How many of you average joe citizens have had the need to shoot someone before? Or even wave it around at a would be perp for intimidation/protection purposes?

Just wondering whether the desire to have guns fits the need to have them. Im not a hippy or anything, I guess I don't understand the need for a suped up auto-shotty? Are you expecting some army to target you and, if need be, you can go all Chuck Norris/Steven Segal/Tim Tebow on their asses?

I have been in the situation where I discharged a firearm at someone. I am not in the same situation now, but I have been. That being said, I don't hunt. My firearms are for 2 things, target shooting and killing people (in self-defense of course). Hopefully the latter will never have to happen

Dante84 · 12-27-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I have been in the situation where I discharged a firearm at someone. I am not in the same situation now, but I have been. That being said, I don't hunt. My firearms are for 2 things, target shooting and killing people (in self-defense of course). Hopefully the latter will never have to happen

Was that in self defense or were you just getting gangsta at a house party? Or were you in Dodge City at a Saloon when Ol' Curly cheated at poker and you made him "dance?"

Please say the latter.....

**Bowser** · 12-27-2009, 05:41 PM

I'm suprised Bwana, Radar Chief, RedNeckRaider, and a few others haven't hosted a "Big Gun Party", or somesuch.

**petegz28** · 12-27-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Was that in self defense or were you just getting gangsta at a house party? Or were you in Dodge City at a Saloon when Ol' Curly cheated at poker and you made him "dance?"

Please say the latter.....

Self defense. Worked in a family liquor store.

Dante84 · 12-27-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

Self defense. Worked in a family liquor store.

... in Dodge City.... selling sasparilla and whiskey?

**TrebMaxx** · 12-27-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Out of curiosity....

Hunting aside, Policeman/Soldiers/Bodyguards aside...

How many of you average joe citizens have had the need to shoot someone before? Or even wave it around at a would be perp for intimidation/protection purposes?

Just wondering whether the desire to have guns fits the need to have them. Im not a hippy or anything, I guess I don't understand the need for a suped up auto-shotty? Are you expecting some army to target you and, if need be, you can go all Chuck Norris/Steven Segal/Tim Tebow on their asses?

Fortunately I haven't had the need to use any of my weapons for protection purposes. Although, it is all about the odds as there have been numerous home invasions with in a square mile of me. I would rather be prepared than not.

12-26-2009, 09:35 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1185873	Yo, Mr. Bwana, need your advice... I am looking to get 2 firearms, 1 for CCW and another for an assault type shotgun. For the CCW I am thinking a .380. What is a good one that won't break me but won't **** up when I need it? For the shotgun, what do you reccomend that is reasonable on the pocket book? Thanks in advance
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12-27-2009, 08:47 AM	#16
tmax63 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $433600	I have a cheap little 380 (Lorcinco I think) I keep around the house and for CC it's very capable. Momma also likes it because it's softer to shoot than my 40. For the 5 yd and under range it does fine. __________________ An armed member of society is a citizen, an unarmed member is a subject.
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12-27-2009, 09:23 AM	#17
roman gnome Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Gator Country Casino cash: $9494900	Just my opinion, but for carry you might check out a Glock 19 or one of Glock's compact models. Never on the cheap side but always reliable and very easy to carry w/15 rounds or more. Like everyone you'll most likely try a few different guns before finding one made just for you. Good luck. I'm partial to Winchester 1300's for riot guns.YMMV
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12-27-2009, 10:06 AM	#18
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2135750532	It looks like you have a lot of solid advise on the pistol. As far as the shotgun, it demends what you have to spend. If it's a lot, I like the Benelli M4. You can buy a lot of extras for it as well. http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli_m4.php They don't give those away though, so if you want to keep the price down, you may want to consider a Remington 870 with the 20 inch barrel and the extended tube. You can also buy a lot a extras for that as well. __________________ Adventure is dangerous....but monotony can kill you.
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12-27-2009, 10:36 AM	#20
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1659358	for CC i would go with .40 or bigger. but, if you want 9mm, I would look at a compact Springfield XD-9. I have the full size model, and it's a great pistol; and quite a bit cheaper than Glock. I think a 9mm would be fine with the right ammo, and proficient shot. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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12-27-2009, 10:42 AM	#22
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1659358	this is the sub-compact - which is smaller than the compact. I think my full-size barrel is 4"?...not sure what the compact is. but this woudl give you an idea on size. The compact would be slightly larger than this. I also like my XD-9 because of the safety features. Trigger safety, grip safety; cocking pin indicator on the back of the slide, and loaded chamber indicator on top of the slide. My wife can look at the gun, and determine it's 'hot'. (although she always considers it hot, until she drops the magazine and locks the slide open). __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
Posts: 37,464

12-27-2009, 05:24 PM	#24
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-2108004 VARSITY	Out of curiosity.... Hunting aside, Policeman/Soldiers/Bodyguards aside... How many of you average joe citizens have had the need to shoot someone before? Or even wave it around at a would be perp for intimidation/protection purposes? Just wondering whether the desire to have guns fits the need to have them. Im not a hippy or anything, I guess I don't understand the need for a suped up auto-shotty? Are you expecting some army to target you and, if need be, you can go all Chuck Norris/Steven Segal/Tim Tebow on their asses?
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12-27-2009, 05:41 PM	#27
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-288384	I'm suprised Bwana, Radar Chief, RedNeckRaider, and a few others haven't hosted a "Big Gun Party", or somesuch.
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