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Old 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM  
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***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread ***
Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

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Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:25 PM   #16
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Penny's your reliable 3rd starter.

By the end of the season in SF he was healthy and throwing darts. He's a very good pitcher when he's on his game.

Lohse is your 4th starter.

I'm far more concerned with our closer going forward than I am our 3rd or 4th starter. In all reality, I'm more concerned with our ace staying healthy than I am our 4th starter.
I'm hopeful Motte got the 2nd pitch and better control this year and he will step up to the plate. Hawksworth and Boggs can also step up this year,

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Job's not done yet, Mo. You still have plenty of work to do.
He's proved to me he's up to the task. He's been so successful we had better watch out for the Yankess, Cubs etc coming after him. Excellent job so far. And Dewitt has proven he's no cheapskate.
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Holliday can still shove that bag of sunflower seeds up his ass, but if he keeps Pujols here, his albatross of a contract will be worth it.
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Holliday can still shove that bag of sunflower seeds up his ass, but if he keeps Pujols here, his albatross of a contract will be worth it.
Yeah, he's going to have to grow on me too. But if he helped keep Pujols in a Cardinals uniform, well worth the money.

Hey Mo and Dewitt while your passing out the big bucks...lets lock up Pujols forever in the Birds on Bat. He's going to get the biggest contract evah. If anyone has ever been worth it, Pujols is. Pull the trigger. Give us our own "Stan the Man" for this generation.
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I'm hopeful Motte got the 2nd pitch and better control this year and he will step up to the plate. Hawksworth and Boggs can also step up this year,

He's proved to me he's up to the task. He's been so successful we had better watch out for the Yankess, Cubs etc coming after him. Excellent job so far. And Dewitt has proven he's no cheapskate.
Motte's dead to me.

He showed so little progress last season that I really think you can call him stalled. He's not 22, the kid will be 28 yrs old this season and doesn't even have the beginnings of a breaking ball. He made absolutely no traction in that area as the season went on.

His velocity plummeted down to around 93 and his command was shaky at best by season's end. The only time he got anyone out was when someone was kind enough to hit a bullet right at someone.

Honestly, I'd slot him behind Boggs and Hawksworth in my RH relief corps, which is to say that he likely wouldn't make the team.
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Hawksworth should be allowed to compete for the 5th spot along with Garcia and Boggs.

Penny is better than Pineiro's career year.
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Hawksworth should be allowed to compete for the 5th spot along with Garcia and Boggs.

Penny is better than Pineiro's career year.
I'm sure they are all going to get plenty of starts in spring training. Unless Smoltz drops his price and then he could be back as the 5th starter.
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I'm sure they are all going to get plenty of starts in spring training. Unless Smoltz drops his price and then he could be back as the 5th starter.
I'd rather have Smoltz as a closer. I think Franklin's 15 minutes are up.
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I'd rather have Smoltz as a closer. I think Franklin's 15 minutes are up.
Smoltz will start somewhere. Thats what he wants and there are enough teams wanting him that one of them will give him a starting spot. But I agree, for us, he's much more valuable in the pen.

And I agree with Franklin. I hope he proves us wrong but I don't see a repeat of last year in 2010.

Every team has holes, even the Yankees. But a reliable closer isn't one of them if you expect to win a Champiionship.
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I'd rather have Smoltz as a closer. I think Franklin's 15 minutes are up.
Same here. At least if someone like Smoltz were around he could slide into that role if Franklin picks up where he left off last season.
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Franklin's 15 minutes were up in August. They call it regression to the mean for a reason.


If they run him out there as closer for more than a month...
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Same here. At least if someone like Smoltz were around he could slide into that role if Franklin picks up where he left off last season.
yep, that would be a great scenerio.
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