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Old 01-08-2010, 11:44 AM   #1
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fuck off.
I've never seen Donger lose his cool like that. Godamn I really laughed out loud.
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Old 01-08-2010, 06:35 PM   #2
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This is another pesky government program. No good can come from it. All funding should be pulled immediately and the facility should be permanently closed.
Surely you are aware that there are strong calls to end this from the left and the right.

From a fiscally conservative side, the NIF has been shadily funded by Enronning the fee structure throughout Lawrence Livermore so that more conventional research in the facility pulls outrageous fees so NIF can reduce it's fees to slide in under it's allocated funding. Watchdogs have pinning the overspending at 2 billion over authorized on this project alone.

From the anti-war left side, NIF has been sold to Congress as a weapons, not energy [not until recently], development program. ie, they want fusion so that they can create nuclear weapons out of anything, not just weapon's grade plutonium as with fission. And there are tons of resolutions condemning them for violating non-proliferation treaties.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:21 PM   #3
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Surely you are aware that there are strong calls to end this from the left and the right.

From a fiscally conservative side, the NIF has been shadily funded by Enronning the fee structure throughout Lawrence Livermore so that more conventional research in the facility pulls outrageous fees so NIF can reduce it's fees to slide in under it's allocated funding. Watchdogs have pinning the overspending at 2 billion over authorized on this project alone.

From the anti-war left side, NIF has been sold to Congress as a weapons, not energy [not until recently], development program. ie, they want fusion so that they can create nuclear weapons out of anything, not just weapon's grade plutonium as with fission. And there are tons of resolutions condemning them for violating non-proliferation treaties.
I'm not arguing any of that BS. I'm stating that Right Wingers (the populace) hate government programs. This is one of them. I would think the Right Wingers would want this ended. Unless of course, they are hypocrites.
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:27 AM   #4
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I'm not arguing any of that BS. I'm stating that Right Wingers (the populace) hate government programs. This is one of them. I would think the Right Wingers would want this ended. Unless of course, they are hypocrites.
OIC, you're a simpleton. I'm so sorry.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:39 PM   #5
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OIC, you're a simpleton. I'm so sorry.
I like your takes on Howard Stern and the general entertainment world so much more.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:40 AM   #6
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another Fusion group. I'll cross my fingers but not hold my breath.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:41 AM   #7
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https://lasers.llnl.gov/

Halfway decent video explanation on the home page.

A little more exposition

https://lasers.llnl.gov/multimedia/v..._nif_works.php
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:47 AM   #8
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Thats a TON of money to throw into something that may or may not work

hope it works.. that'd be cool till it gets out of hand and Doc Ock isn't around and Spiderman is busy hangin upside down kissing an alligator
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:57 AM   #9
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Holy shit.

Sounds like this might finally be achievable. That is so insane, I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:59 AM   #10
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:02 PM   #11
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all we really need is some unobtainium.
that was the dumbest name for a fake substance ever! lol
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:26 PM   #12
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that was the dumbest name for a fake substance ever! lol
I actually have 3-4 lbs of it. Its good stuff. But not good for deep encasing after being exposed to a reducing flame.
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:31 PM   #13
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that was the dumbest name for a fake substance ever! lol
Lest you think Cameron penned it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:10 PM   #14
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Thats a TON of money to throw into something that may or may not work

hope it works.. that'd be cool till it gets out of hand and Doc Ock isn't around and Spiderman is busy hangin upside down kissing an alligator
What is money, but an artificial substance that society made up and applied value to.

If this actually works, do realize the ramifications that it would have world wide?

The middle east would be a non-issue. Green house effects would almost virtually disappear, and flying cars might actually be just around the corner.


Not to derail the subject, but flying cars. Can you imagine the nightmare that would be. it's tough enough driving down the road without encountering some sort of douchebaggery. When cars can fly, and idiots can drive them, we are all doomed.
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What is money, but an artificial substance that society made up and applied value to.

If this actually works, do realize the ramifications that it would have world wide?

The middle east would be a non-issue. Green house effects would almost virtually disappear, and flying cars might actually be just around the corner.


Not to derail the subject, but flying cars. Can you imagine the nightmare that would be. it's tough enough driving down the road without encountering some sort of douchebaggery. When cars can fly, and idiots can drive them, we are all doomed.
You think the arab nations are pissed off at us now, wait until they have absolutely nothing of value to us and we shut them off...

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