GBN Report: 2010 SENIOR BOWL GAME REVIEW

[Tribal Warfare]

2010 SENIOR BOWL GAME REVIEW

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

So you were being a ****ing moron in other words.

Thanks.

no ... just that you should learn to ****ing read.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Graham looked like Jared Allen in those highlights

i dunno

i've always consider Allen more of a "lean" rusher who has enough power to maintain forward momentum through the lean.

Graham looks more like freeney imo ... a quick guy who's on the short side who can actually use his shorter build to leverage around guys.

[Chiefnj2]

Graham plays like a slower DT. Great shoulder dip and balance.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Laz

i dunno

Graham looks more like freeney imo ... a quick guy who's on the short side who can actually use his shorter build to leverage around guys.

build yes, but with his natural ability and his technique which is the key part to my Jared Allen comparison

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Graham is basically Lamar Woodley, that's his comparison for what he is at the next level.

EXACTLY.

[AustinChief]

I would love to see us trade WAY down and pick up Graham (not at all likely) or possibly trade slightly down and use the extra picks to trade our 2a up to a late 1st and get him...

Hard to justify taking him at #5 and unlikely to slip out of the 1st round.

[Wilson8]

Draft Dope from Pigskin Paul

I have not been as profuse in my praise of BRANDON GRAHAM/DE/MICHIGAN as many have been after watching him in Mobile last week. I see GRAHAM as a very high-energy player with some pass-rush ability. But I think he is limited and and will be facing a move to OLB in the NFL. He does not remind me of DWIGHT FREENEY. He is more like ELVIS DUMERVIL of the BRONCOS. I only saw GRAHAM using an upfield, outside push move in pass rushing during the game last Saturday. He looked a lot like KGB in his last couple of years in Green Bay... a 1-trick pony. Another factor working against GRAHAM as a down pass-rusher are his short arms, which measured only 30 1/2”. DUMERVIL’s arms were almost 34” long when measured during Senior Bowl Week some years ago.


GRAHAM is a nice player who will be effective in the NFL as an OLB in a 3-4 scheme, ala former teammate LAMARR WOODLEY. In fact he mentioned WOODLEY during a Press Conference in Mobile, saying he taught him everything he knew about the pass-rush before leaving Michigan. But I think rankings I have seen this week with some “experts” placing him in the late First Round are misguided. Mid-to-late Round 2 is more like it for this hard working, athletic guy.


http://www.pigskinpaul.com/Pigskin_P...RAFT_DOPE.html

[Wilson8]

Read info below from that same report...If the Redskins go offensive tackle with the 1st pick that means Clausen or Bradford or both will be available. Also one less offensive tackle to pick from.

Even though some of us are projecting the REDSKINS to snatch up a QB in Round One, word is filtering out of Washington that MIKE SHANAHAN is spending a lot of time watching film on TONY PIKE/QB/CINCINNATI. If he does indeed like PIKE as April approaches that would free the ‘SKINS up to take a badly needed OT like OKUNG or DAVIS with that No. 4 overall Pick. The catch is that such a move would force the team to use it’s Round 2 Pick on PIKE, which may be a bit too high. The reason.... they don’t have a Third Rounder which is where PIKE belongs.


The ideal scenario might be if the ‘SKINS can find a trading partner looking to move up to that 4-slot, and pick up a 3rd Round Pick. But even then it might have to be a very early 3rd Rounder, because other teams should be looking for PIKE by that time. This may all be a smoke screen, but it makes some sense and is the kind of speculation that makes the next few months so much fun for DRAFTNIKS.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Wilson8

Draft Dope from Pigskin Paul

I have not been as profuse in my praise of BRANDON GRAHAM/DE/MICHIGAN as many have been after watching him in Mobile last week. I see GRAHAM as a very high-energy player with some pass-rush ability. But I think he is limited and and will be facing a move to OLB in the NFL. He does not remind me of DWIGHT FREENEY. He is more like ELVIS DUMERVIL of the BRONCOS. I only saw GRAHAM using an upfield, outside push move in pass rushing during the game last Saturday. He looked a lot like KGB in his last couple of years in Green Bay... a 1-trick pony. Another factor working against GRAHAM as a down pass-rusher are his short arms, which measured only 30 1/2”. DUMERVIL’s arms were almost 34” long when measured during Senior Bowl Week some years ago.


GRAHAM is a nice player who will be effective in the NFL as an OLB in a 3-4 scheme, ala former teammate LAMARR WOODLEY. In fact he mentioned WOODLEY during a Press Conference in Mobile, saying he taught him everything he knew about the pass-rush before leaving Michigan. But I think rankings I have seen this week with some “experts” placing him in the late First Round are misguided. Mid-to-late Round 2 is more like it for this hard working, athletic guy.


http://www.pigskinpaul.com/Pigskin_P...RAFT_DOPE.html

So this guy admits that he is another Lamarr Woodley... yet projects him in the 2nd round... Would ANYONE here NOT trade a mid to late 1st round pick for PRO BOWLER Woodley? IF he slips to our 2a and we DON'T pick him.. I will be furious.

[Mecca]

Woodley went in the late 2nd round, this is actually a better draft than Woodley's was so it makes sense....

I think his highest possible landing place is Green Bay with their first rounder.

[googlegoogle]

NT's sound intriguing.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Woodley went in the late 2nd round, this is actually a better draft than Woodley's was so it makes sense....

I think his highest possible landing place is Green Bay with their first rounder.

Woodley went late 2nd because he was an unknown commodity... great production but lacking size... Graham is Woodley part 2... but we KNOW what he brings to the table...(Woodley part 2)

Mecca... can you honestly say you wouldn't take Woodley (knowing what you know about him now) with a 15-25 pick?

Graham is an inch shorter but otherwise he is damn near the same player.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Woodley went late 2nd because he was an unknown commodity... great production but lacking size... Graham is Woodley part 2... but we KNOW what he brings to the table...(Woodley part 2)

Mecca... can you honestly say you wouldn't take Woodley (knowing what you know about him now) with a 15-25 pick?

Graham is an inch shorter but otherwise he is damn near the same player.

What would he give us over Tamba at this point?

My point being that people around here are so insanely against picking up a OT early in the draft to shore up a position of need (either side, preferably both, I don't care), but it's okay to spend a pick like that on a guy that will provide no improvement, and maybe a little less (considering the amazing knack that Hali has in forcing fumbles), than what Tamba in capable of at the exact same position? I don't get it. Kindle I understand because he's long and athletic enough to play either of the OLB spots for three downs, but Graham, while a nice player, would be a bad pick seeing as we already have a more experienced version of him on the team.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

What would he give us over Tamba at this point?

My point being that people around here are so insanely against picking up a OT early in the draft to shore up a position of need (either side, preferably both, I don't care), but it's okay to spend a pick like that on a guy that will provide no improvement, and maybe a little less (considering the amazing knack that Hali has in forcing fumbles), than what Tamba in capable of at the exact same position? I don't get it. Kindle I understand because he's long and athletic enough to play either of the OLB spots for three downs, but Graham, while a nice player, would be a bad pick seeing as we already have a more experienced version of him on the team.

Graham is a lot stonger(stronger overall I think) at the point of attack then Hali which makes him better against the run. Also with both players on the team maybe we could keep them both fresh so we could sack the QB to end the game for a win. (more than once a year) There will probably be situations where they both are on the field at the same time too. It'd really suck to have two good pass rushers on the field at the same time.


PhilFree

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by philfree

It'd really suck to have two good pass rushers on the field at the same time.

I know what you mean. At least, I'd hate it. Also, I don't really know if Tamba could play the left side. I don't think he's ever been asked to do that. Not advocating taking Graham, but this Saccoshit is an idiot for completely discounting the idea.

Don't you get it? The reason nobody wants to take a LT with the 5th, is b/c there is absolutely no value to that type of pick. OT later? Sure. Doesn't mean I want to move Albert to accommodate him though. Maybe we could stay away from OT altogether and get a C or G? You really need to stop banging the OT drum. You're annoying. Nobody wants to argue with you about that shit anymore. The only reason they do is b/c you won't shut up about it. Can't wait for the draft to come, so we won't have to listen to your OT shit anymore.