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1. St Louis Rams-Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma.

Now I personally don't think Bradford is worth this pick but you follow the money so to speak. St Louis is trying to energize it's fan base and all that jazz much easier to do that with a QB than a DT. Bradford's risky but they don't have much to lose, figure it's time to pull the trigger. Going to a dome and a WCO scheme should benefit Bradford once he gets center snaps and proper footwork down. Could end up as a Schaub type of the Rams can put pieces around him.

2. Detroit Lions-Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska.

No brainer pick, a defensive head coach gets a centerpiece player to build his team around. This actually gives him similar pieces to what he worked with in Tennessee, Suh can do the same things if not more than Haynesworth did. You have Ernie Sims who can be Bulluck and so forth. To good for this team to pass on. They made need an LT badly for Stafford but you can't do it at the expensive of a centerpiece defensive player.

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers-Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma.

This probably makes Tampa as happy as they could be as if both DT's went ahead of them they'd be kind of stuck about who to take. Regardless of the Suh hype, McCoy is an elite prospect in his own right, a premier penetrating DT.

4. Washington Redskins-Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame.

Clausen who's ceiling is higher than Bradford's slides to this pick due to a few questions about his personality and the significant toe injury he played with. I don't feel those concerns will scare off Shanahan who had no problem going with Jay Cutler. Also when a new head coach/regime comes in a new QB almost always follows. Clausen just fits the bill for this team in so many ways, even right down to being an extremely known entity due to playing at ND to a team with an owner that loves making big splashes.

5. Kansas City Chiefs-Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State.

It's hard for me to logically explain this pick as I don't like it. But here goes...
Russell Okung showed up to the combine with the 2nd longest arms and threw up 38 reps at the exact size and weight Todd Haley seems to pine for his OT's to be. On top of that, Pioli is going to do all he can to try to make Cassel look like a good investment. This is a pick that helps Pioli's first big GM move, placates his offensive minded head coach and is a positional value pick in the top 5 that the casual fan base will like, it's an easy pick to make in this market. And no I don't think the Chiefs have any interest in Berry, hope I'm wrong.

6. Seattle Seahawks-Eric Berry, S, Tennessee.

This is a team that is in need of many things but the most important one is playmakers. This team literally has none, Berry fixes that giving them a ballhawk behind a nice LB core. Not to mention he was just coached by Kiffin which makes him an easy transition to what Carroll does.

7. Cleveland Browns-Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee.

I'm changing this pick up a bit, I'll for the moment believe that Haden is going to run the unimpressive 4.5 40 that some project he will, if he does that he won't be a top 10 pick. Mangini doesn't like Shaun Rogers who doesn't play hard all the time or really half the time. Williams I think is much higher on NFL boards than he is by mock boards or fans thoughts of him, I think he's a lock top 12-15 pick. This becomes Clevelands only option if they don't go Haden they can't go OL, they could reach for McClain but Williams makes more sense.

8. Oakland Raiders-Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland.

Campbell is the freakiest of athletes, after that godlike performance he put up at the combine he has to have everyone's attention. I actually don't think this pick is that bad as Campbell has rare physical tools to be something very special. I don't think Bulaga is a good fit here especially after their failure with Gallery and JPP hasn't been athletically freaky enough...yet.

9. Buffalo Bills-Bryan Bulaga-OT, Iowa.

Buffalo is in a bad position here as the 3 players they covet are gone, both QB's and Williams. So they opt for the need pick an OT. I'll go with Bulaga as he fits the mold of what Gailey would like in an OT over the athletic versatility of Williams and the talented but issue ridden Davis.

10. Jacksonville Jaguars-Joe Haden, CB, Florida.

Haden is solid value here even if he runs a sub par 40. Pairing him with Mathis is a really nice corner tandem but on top of that it gives a team that really needs to sell tickets a player from just down the road in Gainesville.

11. Denver Broncos-Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State.

McDaniels essentially trades one troubled WR for another, but with the impeding loss of Marshall this is the pick that has to be made. You'll never win games with Orton and poor skill players. McDaniels also showed a propensity to reach for skill position players with the pick of Moreno last year.

12. Miami Dolphins-Rolando McClain, MLB, Alabama.

McClain most likely won't test out as a clean prospect with his 40 numbers. But Parcells loves LB, notably big bodied guys who have awesome size and McClain checks in as the biggest LB in this class. Solid yet boring pick basically, other options would be JPP and Sergio Kindle but Parcells takes the guy he feels fits and goes with McClain.

13. San Francisco-Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma.

Williams impressive combine showing on top of his athleticism and versatility make him appealing to the 49ers here. Would likely step into RT for this team but may eventually end up at LT. Williams did struggle as a senior after changing sides but that may be due to struggle with injuries and having so much else change around him on the offense as well. Actually very favorably compares to a past OU prospect, Jammal Brown who turned into a very nice NFL LT.

14. Seattle Seahawks-Charles Brown, OT, USC.

A run on OT's still leaves Carroll with the guy he wanted here all along. Brown is very athletic but is not versatile he is strictly a LT at the next level. Essentially a perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme as he just spent 4 years in it, a converted TE, could end up as an elite pass protector as he's very polished in that regard but needs to work on his power and run blocking. After weighing in at over 300lbs at the combine is likely rocketing up NFL teams boards.

15. New York Giants-Brian Price, DT, UCLA.

This teams interior was exposed last year, Price is just to good to pass up here. Didn't get the nationally recognition of Suh and McCoy but is an outstanding player in his own right. In just 3 years had 44.5 tackles for loss and 12.5 sacks. Essentially lived in the opponents backfield of the Pac 10. Putting this player on the Giants DL gives them a front line that can create mass havoc.

16. Tennessee Titans-Jason Pierre Paul, DE, South Florida.

The Titans have to get a pass rusher here, after losing Haynesworth they will now lose Vandenbosch, even if they were to bring him back he's 31 and injury prone these days. This team just needs a pass rusher in a bad way, Pierre Paul is a guy who's has a sky is the limit type of upside. The Titans have generally had good success in drafting defensive linemen like this so they take the risk with him here.

17. San Francisco 49ers-CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson.

Just athletically and generally speaking Spiller is worth of possibly top 10 at worst top 15 in this draft but his position and the fact that he's likely a part time player knocks him down a little bit. Just an absolutely electric playmaker that can take the ball to the house at any time from handoffs, kick returns, punt returns and receptions. Gives the 49ers another weapon on their young offensive nucleus.

18. Pittsburgh Steelers-Taylor Mays, S, USC.

Mays natural ability is the kind of thing people talk about joking around, but the way he was used in college drops him a little bit. With proper coaching he could become one of the best in the league and this team has that kind of coaching. With Polamalu going down it showed how soft this team really is at safety and Ryan Clark is injury prone in his own right. Mays is far to good for this team to pass up on.

19. Atlanta Falcons-Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech.

Morgan falls a little bit here due to not having great upside but he's a safe pick for a team that needs all the help on defense it can get. With Abraham getting older, being injury prone and Lawrence Sidbury looking like a situation rusher this is a very solid pick for this team.


20. Houston Texans-Earl Thomas, CB/S, Texas.

Houston has issues at CB with Robinson likely not coming back, they need major upgrades there and at safety. Thomas is an either or type but him falling to this pick is to good for Houston to pass on, they'll start him off at CB as it's a higher valued position.

21. Cincinnati Bengals-Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida.

Yes this team is desperately in need of a WR but for Marvin Lewis Dunlap is just to enticing to pass up. A rare blend of size, speed and athletic gifts, with some character concerns but that has never scared the Bengals. With Odom coming off a major injury and Johnson quite possibly never being a full time starter the Bengals are thrilled Dunlap lasted this long.

22. New England Patriots-Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State.

NE has to fix it's defense and that starts by finding a replacement for Seymour. Odrick is exactly what NE likes in Defensive linemen, 6'5 300lbs with room to add weight and very athletic. Odrick is versatile enough to be outside in 3-4 and inside in rush downs or even in some 4-3.

23. Green Bay Packers-Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers.

Davis blah combine work and his character issues cause him to slide but his talent is still top notch and is far to good for Green Bay to pass on here. OT is one of this teams few needs and Ted Thompson subscribes to the BPA theory and Davis is easily the BPA here and fills a need.

24. Philadelphia Eagles-Everson Griffen, DE, USC.

Calling the Eagles pick is about knowing what the Eagles value, DE is one of their most highly valued things. Griffen is to naturally talented for them to pass on at this pick so they pull the trigger on yet another versatile pass rusher. Would have considered Weatherspoon here but the Eagles devalue LB's.

25. Baltimore Ravens-Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma.

In typical Baltimore fashion they get a complete steal in the 20's. Heap is getting old and can't seem to stay healthy, Gresham gives them versatility and a guy to take over, this is basically stealing a top 15 player due to circumstance.

26. Arizona Cardinals-Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas.

Great value at this pick for the Cards who desperately need a pass rusher with the very marginal players they have playing the position. Kindle should quickly transition into the 3-4 OLB role with experience at both 4-3 OLB and DE.

27. Dallas Cowboys-Mike Iupati, G, Idaho.

Iupati showed in drills at the combine that he is nothing more than a guard which drops him down to late 1st round. That makes the Cowboys thrilled as he is a perfect fit for their offensive line that must get younger.

28. San Diego Chargers-Ryan Matthews, RB, Fresno State.

With all of the top OT's gone, and having a real pressing need at RB on a win now team they opt for possibly the only 3 down RB in the draft. Matthews is a very good blend of size and speed, he needs to answer durability questions.

29. New York Jets-Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan.

Once again knowing a team is knowing how they draft, Rex Ryan believes you can never have enough pass rushers or CB's. After taking offensive players in the last draft and the trade for Edwards the Jets opt for defense with Graham just being to good to pass up on. The Jets created havoc with blitzes but got very few sacks doing it, Graham gives them a guy who could become their elite rusher.

30. Minnesota Vikings-Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri.

The way this mock plays out makes the Vikings a very happy team. Weatherspoon is better than this spot but his position and the teams between here opt for other needs. He can step right in and play right away likely sending Leber to the bench or off the roster.

31. Indianapolis Colts-Maurkice Pouncey, C/G, Florida.

The Colts must improve on their offensive line, with the top OT's being gone, Pouncey upgrades guard right away and can be Saturday's successor at center.

32. New Orleans Saints-Navarro Bowman, OLB, Penn State.

The Saints sit in a really bad position here as the best players on the board are WR's a position they have no need for. In this spot they would likely trade down and still get the player they want but for mock sake I'll give them Bowman as he can start and upgrade their defense right away.

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33. St Louis Rams-Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois.

After taking Bradford to have Benn drop into their laps like this has to be pleasantly surprising. Benn has all the tools to be a 1 in the league if he can put it together consistently.

34. Detroit Lions-Jahvid Best, RB, Cal.

The one position on offense this team has no explosion is RB, they surely don't have it now with Kevin Smith's injury, hell they didn't have it with him. This is great value for the Lions to get a player with Best's big play ability here, the OT's don't warrant the pick and this is another playmaker for Stafford to work with.

35. Tampa Bay Buccaneers-Golden Tate, WR, ND.

A little short but his blazing 40 and return ability keep him high in the 2nd round, Tampa will likely be losing Antonio Bryant shortly and with having a young QB it's very important to have weapons.

36. Kansas City Chiefs-Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama.

The Chiefs need for a nose has them taking Cody here. Honestly I think this is a pretty good pick and a no brainer that this will happen should be slide to this pick.

37. Washington Redskins-Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale

This pick to me is about fit, Veldheer is big and athletic enough for the Shanahan scheme, the only thing he doesn't have is really long arms but his are good enough. Washington needs an OT in the worst way with their OL in shambles.

38. Cleveland Browns-Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona.

Gronkowski is a very good player who needs to prove he's back from injury if he does that he's a steal at this pick for a team that needs any kind of offensive players it can find.

39. Oakland Raiders-Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State.

Now I personally like Robinson, he has blazing speed and is a great athlete, he's comfortable matched up man on man as that's how FSU played. He's comfortable covering speed receivers but struggles a bit with size guys, but he's a CB the Raiders will love because of the speed, solid pick for a team that needs a CB.

40. Seattle Seahawks-Damian Williams, WR, USC.

With the Seahawks likely losing Burleson in FA this year and really having nothing after Houshmandzadeh with the failure of Branch, Carroll takes a WR he's familiar with in Williams. Williams is very polished and ready to go right away. He likely profiles out as a very good #2 WR, somewhat like the Giants Steve Smith another SC product and if he fully maximizes what he has maybe a poor mans Reggie Wayne. Williams can also help on punt returns.

41. Buffalo Bills-Cam Thomas, NT, North Carolina.

After missing out on an NT in the 1st round they go with Thomas here as they must fill the position, they don't have anyone that can play NT on the current roster. Thomas is quickly rising up the boards as of now and this seems like a good spot for him.

42. Tampa Bay Buccaneers-Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State.

Solid value pick here, Wilson was very impressive down at the senior bowl but likely won't have jaw dropping workout numbers, solid compromise slot for a team that needs CB help badly.

43. Miami Dolphins-Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU.

With the cutting of Porter and the age of Taylor this is a need pick, Hughes has a transition to make but he is athletic with a very good motor.

44. New England Patriots-Ricky Sapp, OLB, Clemson.

Sapp is another very tall DE/OLB tweener who fits the mold of the type of guy NE would want outside. Fast and explosive but a little light for his height but at 6'5 240 he has the frame to get bigger, NE desperately needs to find guys to put pressure on the QB.

45. Denver Broncos-Coorey Wooten, DE, Northwestern.

Pretty much a no brainer pick, 5 tech 3-4 end, solid fit.

46. NY Giants-Chad Jones, S, LSU.

Jones is freakish in his ability, more SS than FS, the future with Kenny Phillips is unknown but if he comes back he could slide to FS. The Giants frankly opt for the best secondary player available.

47. New England Patriots-Brandon Lafell, WR, LSU.

With the impeding loss of Moss, the Welker injury and how much playing time Sam Aiken saw it's imperative this team find another WR. Lafell had a disappointing 40 at the combine but was good in all of the WR drills, he drops a bit but should still be a good NFL WR.

48. Carolina Panthers-Mardy Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati.

Gilyard would upgrade this teams return game and might be able to be the #2 WR by the start of the season, they are very thin at WR, solid value for a team with a very stale passing game.

49. San Francisco 49ers-Eric Norwood, OLB, South Carolina.

This is an outstanding pick, they get a rushbacker that has been playing rushbacker for his entire college career, with this draft the 49ers have now picked up 3 guys who can help them right away.

50. Kansas City Chiefs-Brandon Spikes-MLB, Florida.

After missing out on McClain the Chiefs grab Spikes who is a very similar player for the 3-4, speed concerns drop him to this pick. Is likely only a 2 down 3-4 thumper LB at the NFL level.

51. Houston Texas-Lamarr Houston, DT, Texas.

After missing out on Price in the first they get Lamarr Houston here, a nice consolation prize as Houston is a very nice player who is very underrated.

52. Pittsburgh Steelers-J.D. Walton, C, Baylor.

A 300+lb center in the mold of what the Steelers like out of their offensive linemen. Jeff Hartings isn't getting any younger and with the injuries they've had on the interior line this is a nice fit.

53. New England Patriots-Ed Dickson, TE, Oregon.

With the impeding loss of Ben Watson this team has to make a move at TE. Dickson while not being the athletic freak Watson was, is a very consistent pass catch has a very nice frame and gets the job done.

54. Cincinnati Bengals-Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech.

The Bengals didn't get the receiver they needed in the first but catch a break here. Thomas foot injury and questions about route running cause him to slide into this spot. He is a bit of a project because he needs to learn how to run proper routes coming out of an option scheme but things like that don't scare the Bengals.

55. Philadelphia Eagles-Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech.

Sean Jones is likely off this team and Macho Harris was very blah as a starter. Burnett has a knack for making plays and is capable of playing both safety spots, they go for Burnett who still has considerable upside over the maxed out and older Nate Allen.

56. Green Bay Packers-Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State.

With the age of Woodson and Harris along with the Harris injury this is a nice pick. Provided Harris and Pat Lee stay healthy next year Cox can be brought along slowly maybe contributing in the return game but he has very good potential.

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Old 02-28-2010, 11:09 PM   #16
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I don't think the Chiefs have any interest in taking Eric Berry, I also think if San Diego wants a RB it has to come early, this is a very blah RB class, a lot of role player types.
I'm sure you've explained this many times, but why would the Chiefs not be interested in Berry?

BTW - Why would we take a blah RB in the 1st when we could get one in the 5th?
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The Vikings are taking a LB or a CB, depends what's there.
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I'm sure you've explained this many times, but why would the Chiefs not be interested in Berry?
Just don't see it, Pioli's history says he values big fat bodies with his high picks and it's a deep safety class on top of it.
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I think my logic with it is sound, Pioli needs to protect his investment he doesn't want to have to admit his first big decision was a ****up.
Hence the expression, "throwing good money after bad".

If he drafts Okung, I'll keep my signature as "Mother**** You, Scott Pioli" until his ass is fired in 2028.
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Hence the expression, "throwing good money after bad".

If he drafts Okung, I'll keep my signature as "Mother**** You, Scott Pioli" until his ass is fired in 2028.
I don't like it either but I think it's pretty likely at this point.

Okung threw up an awesome workout and came in at the precise size and had the arm length, and on top of that McClain isn't a clean prospect, all signs as of now pointing to Okung.
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I see Pioli trading up to #1 overall, taking Cody then having Crennel swich to a 4-3 just to **** with you guys.
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I don't like it either but I think it's pretty likely at this point.

Okung threw up an awesome workout and came in at the precise size and had the arm length, and on top of that McClain isn't a clean prospect, all signs as of now pointing to Okung.
I know you are only speculating on the likelihood of it happening.

Still, it's infuriating to think that after 20 years of Carl, we get rewarded with Bill Belichick's dingleberries.
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:24 PM   #27
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:25 PM   #28
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I SWEAR TO GOD.

I MEAN IT. I WILL SWEAR TO MY LORD AND SAVIOR.

IF THE CHIEFS TAKE OKUNG OVER ERIC BERRY I WILL JUMP OUT OF THE TALLEST WINDOW OF THE TALLEST TOWER IN MY TOWN.

I SWEAR TO GOD. I WILL DO IT.
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:26 PM   #29
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Spoon to the Vikes? Ugh, that would make that D even better. It's alright, I have him going to the Eagles.
The Eagles don't value that position, they always have no name LB's and never use high picks on it.

The easiest way to get an Eagles pick right, give them a lineman.
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:27 PM   #30
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Here's another ?:

If St. Louis drafts a QB in the first, that will mean that we've gone longer w/o drafting a 1st round QB than any team but the Saints.

Also, if we pass, we will have had 3 straight top 5 selections and never once spent one on a QB
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